Two Polite Requests for those who hang out in "General"
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Frank, one food-for-thought comment that I might make here is: "don't oblige me to read (or, listen to / watch) the story." Summarize it. Using the written word that is the foundation of any forum such as this.
In other words: "please comment!" You've read it (for me). Therefore, tell me in-summary what you think of it so that I don't have to literally follow in your footprints. And then, "please go ahead." Tell us what you think. Start a discussion. Don't oblige me to repeat "what you did" in order to derive any useful benefit from what you chose to introduce to me: instead, "save me a step or three."
C'mon ... put on your very best "Cliff's Notes® Hat," and go for it!
LQ is fundamentally a written-only forum site. It thrives on discussion, but expressed [only] in words.
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Please don't make LQ into a syndicated news feed by "merely" posting short messages that contain links to news articles or to videos.
If you want to discuss what another piece of web content means to you, then please discuss it, such that one does not necessarily need to read or watch the piece in order to understand your point-of-view.
couldn't agree more.
esp. when it links to an extremely ad- and script-ridden commercial site, and the actual article being refered to is halfway down the page.
i consider that impolite & disrespectful.
like expecting a stranger to meet you in a place that has an admittance fee.
frankbell, I think what sundialsvcs is getting at, put a link up but add a comment of your own or point out a bit of information in regards to the link...
I do try to include a comment about what I'm linking to. I must confess, it's usually short and snarky, but I do not create a post that is only a link.
I will occasionally create a post that's only a link in responding to a Linux Question.
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Frank, one food-for-thought comment that I might make here is: "don't oblige me to read (or, listen to / watch) the story." Summarize it. Using the written word that is the foundation of any forum such as this.
I generally try to give some kind of preview of what the link is about, but I concede that, if you search all my posts, you will likely find occasions when I failed to do so.
As an aside, I have been somewhat dismayed by the recent proliferation of posts about US politics here at LQ. I understand it, as I understand that, for many Linux-using USAns, LQ is their online home, but I would rather they find some other place to discuss political issues. That's just me.
In my other life, I blog about politics, not because I set out to be a political blogger (I just set out to have a blog), but because politics matter and I care about my country. I come here in the evenings to bathe in the purity of Linux and staunch the scent of politics.
That's why I try to avoid the temptation to participate in those threads. Sometimes, enough is enough.
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I'd like to make two polite requests to the rest of us:
(1) Please don't make LQ into a syndicated news feed by "merely" posting short messages that contain links to news articles or to videos. If I wanted news feeds (I don't ...), or if I wanted to watch television (I don't even own one ...), then I already have the technology to do this. This place is intended to be a watercooler: a place to hang out and discuss things.
If you want to discuss what another piece of web content means to you, then please discuss it, such that one does not necessarily need to read or watch the piece in order to understand your point-of-view. Summarize what the piece says with a short but relevant quote. And – how do I say it nicely – "don't waste our time."
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(2) Here and elsewhere, please be careful about "exhuming" very old threads. If the thread was written in 2011, it's probably not relevant today. Recently, some people resurrected old threads in what seemed to be a deliberate attempt to re-light an old controversy ... such as referring to SCO's attempt to seize the intellectual-property rights to Linux, given that the effort bankrupted and utterly dissolved SCO many years ago. (See http://www.groklaw.net.) That story is a completely dead horse now, but someone tried to re-light a fire with it. Let's not do that.
Of course, we all do run into the same problems again and again, and sometimes your Super Search does lead you back to an old thread that is still a relevant description of an issue that has just become "re-relevant" to you. As long as you (please) make it clear that this is what you're doing, "that's not grave-robbing."
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By the good graces of our site-owners and moderators, "we have a water cooler." Where we can talk about world or US politics, faith and religion, or, gosh, Linux. But, let's all work to keep it a high-quality water cooler. Are we agreed?
I'm not pointing fingers or naming names, and I well know that, if I did, "four fingers would be pointing back at me." (And anyway, "that's not the point." I'm suggesting a different approach to how we choose to use this forum, not talking about any person.)
"That's what I think about this. So ... what do you think?"
Most of my posts are in the technical forum, some questions/subjects do not have page worth of reply/answers, that one can make/give. The other problem is that, how far do you want to go? For example, should people have to make at least half a page worth of reply/answers? And if they can't, not reply at all? Personally I don't think that's fair or free speech. If I don't like the subject the thread is about, I don't reply to it (or even read it) in the first place. I don't reply to most of your threads/posts, as personally (and with all respect) I think they are nothing short of pure dibble, from someone who seems very unhappy about the way things are and/or someone who just, does not like being disagreed with.
And I've gotta say that I don't think you give Jeremy (and the mod's) enough credit, as I think they are on top of it, in all honesty. Just my two cents.
Heh... contrary to popular belief, beer is not drank "warm" over here. Beer or lager is drank either "chilled" or at "cellar temperature" and Ale is always served at cellar temperature (around 12C), which is the ideal temperature. Putting it in the refrigerator for too long, kills the flavour.
in Cincinnati OH we soak our beer in ice for at least 2 hours 2 or 3C
the city was settled by Germans so what would we know about beer
this time of year 12C is a warm day
T-shirt weather in fact
Fosters, a bit like Emu bitter, Swan Lager or that stuff that comes from that place where they cant spell beer so they call it XXXX, all tastes like crap after the first one...
The only Beer I ever liked was Hannans Lager, and they stopped making it...
Had something to do with water being cheaper in Kalgoorlie so they lost the sales on Beer...
I actually moved the old Hannans vats, they had been turned into part of an acid plant for extracting gold using the Cyanide/carbon leach process...
I moved them 28 years ago, they are now residing over 1,000 klm's north west of Kalgoorlie...
Fosters in the US hasn't been Australian beer for many years. I just looked at a can of Foster's Lager labeled "Australia's Famous Beer Brand", and "Brewed in the US with US and Foreign Ingredients". Brewed by Oil Can Breweries of Fort Worth, TX.
The last time I remember getting a can of Fosters that was actually imported from Australia was in Honolulu in the early 1970's.
Fosters in the US hasn't been Australian beer for many years. I just looked at a can of Foster's Lager labeled "Australia's Famous Beer Brand", and "Brewed in the US with US and Foreign Ingredients". Brewed by Oil Can Breweries of Fort Worth, TX.
The last time I remember getting a can of Fosters that was actually imported from Australia was in Honolulu in the early 1970's.
We kind of have a habit of exporting the stuff thats a bit average... When it comes good products, we keep them at home....rofl
We kind of have a habit of exporting the stuff thats a bit average...
That is always the case. Though I did work for a brewery that produced one decent beer for export. The problem is that you can only control the quality of bottled and canned beer that is likely to go through wide temperature ranges if it is pasturised - hence dead.
When I visited the home country of Guinness, I was surprised that the beer tasted exactly the same, and not-surprised that no one there actually drinks it.
So, I consoled myself with a brew at a local pub which had opened in the 1600's . . .
(It was unbelievably complex and delicious ... and, I instantly knew, "high gravity!" I sipped it along with dinner and had an enjoyable one-beer evening.)
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gravity!" I sipped it along with dinner and had an enjoyable one-beer evening.)
