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Old 07-11-2023, 08:33 PM   #61
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Oh! I know!

He propose a literal (name of male repoductive organ)-measuring contest... https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-m...killer-thrives

 
Old 07-14-2023, 05:26 PM   #62
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Elon Musk's 5 year countdown: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYURUiOjZSw
 
Old 07-16-2023, 06:04 AM   #63
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https://www.phonearena.com/news/twit...rcent_id148944
 
Old 07-16-2023, 09:57 AM   #64
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Ads may go down, but at least hate speech is rising

https://phys.org/news/2023-04-analys...y-twitter.html


Elon - of course - can't see it.

"Do you see a rise of hate speech?" Mr Musk said. "I don't."

He asked our reporter James Clayton for specific examples of hateful content.

When he couldn't pinpoint individual messages, Mr Musk said: "You don't know what you're talking about… you just lied."


From https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65246394
 
Old 07-16-2023, 10:42 AM   #65
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@Jan K. I don't find your first link to be particularly relevant. The sample rate the team used for their analysis was extracted on a very short timeline before and after Musk's acquisition of Twitter and extended only through 2022 before measures such as 'blue check' verification and others could effectively reduce the load of 'bots' regurgitating trash across the platform.

"Using this methodology, the team extracted timelines of a sample of users who posted hateful tweets one month before and after Musk's purchase and measured their daily rates of hate speech during the same time period. ...Then, they measured the overall volume of hateful tweets throughout 2022."
 
Old 07-16-2023, 01:59 PM   #66
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only through 2022 before measures such as 'blue check' verification
I'm not a Twitter user, but I thought the blue check thing was a feature that long predated Musk's acquisition? And the only recent change was that is used to be about verifying identity and now it verifies payment?
 
Old 07-16-2023, 02:43 PM   #67
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I should have been more precise. There have been at least 3 different iterations of the 'blue check' process: In the first, Twitter themselves supposedly took steps to verify and distinguish genuine notable account holders, such as celebrities and organizations, from impostors or parodies.
In 2016 Twitter began accepting requests for verification, but it was discontinued the same year.
Three years later Twitter tried again: "This time offering notability criteria for the account categories of government, companies, brands, and organizations, news organizations and journalists, entertainment, sports and activists, organizers, and other influential individuals."
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_verification

After Musk's purchase Twitter introduced paid verification/paid subscription to everyone with a phone #, address and email. 'Bots' probably haven't been eliminated but, IMO, certainly curtailed.
 
Old 07-16-2023, 05:05 PM   #68
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'Bots' probably haven't been eliminated but, IMO, certainly curtailed.
As have the numbers of advertisers and users.
 
Old 07-16-2023, 07:48 PM   #69
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As have the numbers of advertisers and users.
The liberal media hates him, other small minded people are jealous of his success. If I were him I'd probably pull the plug on Twitter and use the rest of my quarter of a Trillion dollars to help the human race become multi-planetary.
"PROFILE
Elon Musk
CEO, Tesla
$250.4B
Real Time Net Worth
as of 7/16/23 #1 in the world today"
https://www.forbes.com/profile/elon-...h=581d9fea7999
 
Old 07-17-2023, 04:00 AM   #70
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The liberal media hates him, other small minded people are jealous of his success.
Who buys Tesla cars?

Jealousy is one thing... Extreme distaste for ego fuelled decision making is something else entirely.
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If I were him I'd probably pull the plug on Twitter and use the rest of my quarter of a Trillion dollars to help the human race become multi-planetary.
I'd respect that... but you and I both know that it's never going to happen.

Also, how much of Elon's $240bn is tied up in Tesla stock? The company's latest balance sheet shows that the shares have a book value of less than $14 per share. If Elon were to suddenly liquidate all of his stock, the impact on the share price would be disastrous. He is somewhat stuck.

As you like to say: Time will tell!
 
Old 07-17-2023, 07:19 AM   #71
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Who buys Tesla cars? ...
Apparently a rising tide of people - looks like a good place to be 'stuck.'

"Looking at the cumulative data up to May 2023, the best-selling car in the World becomes the Tesla Model Y -up 9 spots- with 427,524 units sold (+85.3%). " https://www.focus2move.com/world-car...revious%20year.


"Despite growing sales at many automakers, Tesla continues to dominate the American EV sector.

The all-electric brand saw its sales rise by 30 percent in the first six months of 2023, as compared to a year earlier. That meant that it sold 336,892 vehicles," https://www.carscoops.com/2023/07/te...ts-all-others/




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As you like to say: Time will tell!
One thing upon which we can agree.
 
Old 07-17-2023, 07:38 AM   #72
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...Also, how much of Elon's $240bn is tied up in Tesla stock? ...
I think I've read that he owns 15% of Tesla?


Musk is thought to own about 44% of SpaceX.

"The valuation of Elon Musk’s SpaceX hit near $150 billion following a share sale by existing investors announced this week, CNBC has learned.

SpaceX has an agreement with new and existing investors to sell up to $750 million in stock from insiders at $81 a share, according to a copy of the purchase offer sent by CFO Bret Johnsen on Thursday, which CNBC obtained.


The new share price represents an increase of about 5% from its previous secondary sale at $77 each, at a valuation of about $140 billion. SpaceX did not respond to a CNBC request for comment on the purchase offer."
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/13/elon...valuation.html
 
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Apparently a rising tide of people
The point of that question is: How many Tesla customers would be conservatives?

I'd be willing to bet that the majority aren't conservative.
 
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I think I've read that he owns 15% of Tesla?
OK, so the current market cap of Tesla is $891bn.

15% of $891bn is ~$133bn, so at least 56% of Elon's wealth is tied up in Tesla stock. Note that the 15% figure you see everywhere seems to exclude stock options that he also holds.
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Musk is thought to own about 44% of SpaceX.
The thing to remember about SpaceX is that it is not a "business" in the conventional sense of the word. It's essentially a fund which is being used for research.

It doesn't generate any revenue per se... It receives grants from donors and sponsors for the work it does.

As such, the conventional rules of business cannot be applied to it.
 
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Agreed

The thing to remember about SpaceX is that it is not a "business" in the conventional sense of the word. It's essentially a fund which is being used for research.

It doesn't generate any revenue per se... It receives grants from donors and sponsors for the work it does.

As such, the conventional rules of business cannot be applied to it.
Agreed, but Starlink (subsidiary of SpaceX) appears to be very close to being spun-off to an IPO: "If Starlink goes public, it could be one of the largest IPOs in recent years." https://observer.com/2023/02/spacex-...ofit-ipo-plan/
 
  


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