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Old 06-08-2020, 12:49 PM   #61
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I realize there are times when Trump sticks his foot in his mouth, however Twitter should NOT be in the business of fact checking anybody. It sets a horrible precedent.
How so? Trump is the "leader" of the free world. His words have severe consequences, and if he's spewing lies, he should be flagged. If Trump has a problem with that, he should use his own platform -- the White House press office -- to blast his message.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 08:17 AM   #62
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How so? Trump is the "leader" of the free world. His words have severe consequences, and if he's spewing lies, he should be flagged. If Trump has a problem with that, he should use his own platform -- the White House press office -- to blast his message.
Twitter does not have any right to dictate what constitutes a lie, especially since its employees are not immune from bias. Given the highly polarized state of politics, and the tendency for one party to accuse the other of lying every time the truth is inconvenient to them, the next president that gets into office of either party MUST then be fact-checked by Twitter for this to be anything other than a political stunt by the Democrat elite.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 10:48 AM   #63
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I don't think there are any governments in the west that are truly transparent, making fact checking only of limited use, anyway.
"We the people"? Yeah, no...that's classified. Move along citizen.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 01:14 PM   #64
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Twitter does not have any right to dictate what
constitutes a lie, especially since its employees are not immune from
bias.
What? They are a private company, in charge of their own platform, they are full
in their right to highlight inaccuracies, especially from someone as powerful as
Trump, whose legacy for the history books will be his consistent and appalling
lying to the American public.


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Given the highly polarized state of politics, and the tendency for one party to
accuse the other of lying every time the truth is inconvenient to them, the next
president that gets into office of either party MUST then be fact-checked by
Twitter for this to be anything other than a political stunt by the Democrat
elite.
I agree. Trump set a precedent, and I do think Twitter should do more to fact
check and highlight inaccuracies for power people on the platform, and it
shouldn't be just on the U.S. president. Look at the president of Brazil, or
president of the Philippines, both of whom use Twitter and other social media
platforms like Facebook to spread damaging lies.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 01:38 PM   #65
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You know what's funny, interesting, intriguing? On a linux forum, we post things in general with a little political overtone, and the post gets 10 times the views/responses as the threads about awk, sed, grep, python, firefox, gtk, claws-mail, mint, manjaro etc.

Gosh, what does that say about all of us. And I am laughing when I ask that.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 01:53 PM   #66
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They are a private company, in charge of their own platform, they are full
in their right to highlight inaccuracies, especially from someone as powerful as
Trump, whose legacy for the history books will be his consistent and appalling
lying to the American public.
They may have full rights to their platform, but they do not have a unilateral right to used biased questionable fact checking based on their interpretation of those "facts" under the claim that it is honest fact check. They can simply take the posts down, which I would not agree with.

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I agree. Trump set a precedent, and I do think Twitter should do more to fact
check and highlight inaccuracies for power people on the platform, and it shouldn't be just on the U.S. president. Look at the president of Brazil, or president of the Philippines, both of whom use Twitter and other social media platforms like Facebook to spread damaging lies.
You seem to believe that Twitter is being honest in its fact checking. Twitter has not been honest.
 
Old 06-11-2020, 04:24 AM   #67
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You know what's funny, interesting, intriguing? On a linux forum, we post things in general with a little political overtone, and the post gets 10 times the views/responses as the threads about awk, sed, grep, python, firefox, gtk, claws-mail, mint, manjaro etc.
If you want a technical thread to generate more posts and views, just try posting about init systems!
 
Old 06-11-2020, 10:07 AM   #68
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They may have full rights to their platform, but they do
not have a unilateral right to used biased questionable fact checking based on
their interpretation of those "facts" under the claim that it is honest
fact check.
"Questionable" fact checking? This is referencing to Trump's tweet about voter
fraud through mail-in ballots, which has been debunked by mulitple
organizations.

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You seem to believe that Twitter is being honest in its fact checking.
Twitter has not been honest.
So them pointing to correct resources on mail-in voting is not being honest? Are
you in the camp that agrees with Trump that mail-in voting is fraud?
 
Old 06-11-2020, 10:16 AM   #69
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Mail in voting has great potential for fraud. I want to see people required to identify themselves as US Citizens before they are allowed to vote. Illegal aliens have indeed been caught voting. Only citizens should be allowed to vote, and only once, and only those that are alive. Not someone voting pretending to be a person that died 5 years back. That has happened too.

They should get rid of electronic voting. I want to see a paper trail for every vote. I don't care if it takes longer.
 
Old 06-11-2020, 10:56 AM   #70
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Mail in voting has great potential for fraud. I want to see people required to identify themselves as US Citizens before they are allowed to vote. Illegal aliens have indeed been caught voting. Only citizens should be allowed to vote, and only once, and only those that are alive. Not someone voting pretending to be a person that died 5 years back. That has happened too.
There was a notorious recent case in London where a politician called Lutfur Rahman got elected as mayor of his borough on the basis of a large number of completely fraudulent postal votes.
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They should get rid of electronic voting. I want to see a paper trail for every vote. I don't care if it takes longer.
Hear, hear! We don't have it in this country and I think there would be an uproar if it were to be introduced.
 
Old 06-12-2020, 10:17 AM   #71
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While it does leave a paper trail it isn't perfect.

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/66681...es-on-haunting
 
Old 06-13-2020, 04:40 PM   #72
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While I have had serious misgivings about anyone with zero experience in government becoming it's head, I really did try to give Trump a fair shake. Many of you know I champion the fight over Anthropogenic Climate Change but even with withdrawing from the Paris Accord I tried to remain objective and open, figuring it only a matter of time before the cost became obvious to a businessman president and action began. With his latest tweet recommending the shooting of protesters, I'm done! This man doesn't have a clue what The Constitution, what the US is actually built on as it's cornerstone however badly interpreted and enforced, is really about. All he sees is money in HIS pocket and anything that appears as an obstacle to that is only worthy of being swept aside. I'm done.
 
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Old 06-19-2020, 11:50 AM   #74
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So am I to interpret the previous 2 posts that some think "the emperor IS wearing clothes?" What a sad surprise.
 
  


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