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Old 08-27-2019, 09:30 PM   #451
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Got kids?
 
Old 08-27-2019, 09:32 PM   #452
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If so, they'll probably have kids and then those kids will have kids... catch my space junk drift?
 
Old 08-27-2019, 10:04 PM   #453
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I'm all for being optimistic, many people don't like going to work even if it's their own business; work hard play hard and make no distinction between the two!!!
 
Old 08-28-2019, 12:01 AM   #454
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Only fix I see is white, gray and black hat anarchists!
 
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Here's some good news for a change!

The problem with solar and wind energy has always been that they are intermittent. When you need the energy, it isn't there. Conversely, during a gale, there may be too much wind energy and turbines have to be closed down to avoid damage. The traditional solution is battery storage but it's expensive and inefficient. Also large-scale use of lithium batteries is a fire risk. But now there is an alternative: cryogenic air.

The principle is ridiculously simple. Surplus energy is used to liquefy air, which is stored in insulated tanks. When energy is needed, the liquid air is allowed to warm up again and expand into a huge volume of gas. This drives a turbine which generates electricity in the traditional way.
 
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Here's some good news for a change!

The problem with solar and wind energy has always been that they are intermittent. When you need the energy, it isn't there. Conversely, during a gale, there may be too much wind energy and turbines have to be closed down to avoid damage. The traditional solution is battery storage but it's expensive and inefficient. Also large-scale use of lithium batteries is a fire risk. But now there is an alternative: cryogenic air.

The principle is ridiculously simple. Surplus energy is used to liquefy air, which is stored in insulated tanks. When energy is needed, the liquid air is allowed to warm up again and expand into a huge volume of gas. This drives a turbine which generates electricity in the traditional way.
Thank you, Hazel. I would be very interested in learning more of this technology. We humans may be the principle problem, and also the answer at the same time. If we are to find a solution to our energy (and other) problems, it will come through human genius, and not through self-loathing and hand wringing.
 
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Thank you, Hazel. I would be very interested in learning more of this technology.
Try googling cryogenic air.
 
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Try googling cryogenic air.
Got better targetted results googling "cryogenic energy storage"
 
Old 08-30-2019, 11:05 AM   #459
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The non-procreation due to overpopulation argument is tired and ultimately doomed from the start.

Those who decide not to procreate to supposedly save the planet, simply remove their DNA from the gene pool. The vast majority continue to procreate, not subscribing to the same ideology. As a result the ideology dies out with the individual.

While those who don't care, thrive and multiply...
 
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There is a case for it all the same. Don't procreate and you can be confident that your children won't have to deal with the hellish world beyond the tipping point. Then you can tell yourself that what happens to other people's children after you are dead isn't your problem.
 
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The non-procreation due to overpopulation argument is tired and ultimately doomed from the start.

Those who decide not to procreate to supposedly save the planet, simply remove their DNA from the gene pool. The vast majority continue to procreate, not subscribing to the same ideology. As a result the ideology dies out with the individual.

While those who don't care, thrive and multiply...
right on.

and while thriving and multiplying, the prolific are much more likely to create (or pro-create) the answer to human problems.

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Old 08-30-2019, 04:47 PM   #462
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I suppose it could be argued that we (or at least those who survived) would be "better off" if some cataclysm wiped out say half the global population but I'm banking on there are benefits to humans and civilizations and a safety net against a cataclysm in climate is a good thing partly because it may avoid cataclysm. Certainly any improvement is a good thing but it isn't like the odds are heavily against major changes in sources of clean energy.

Perhaps you've heard of Taylor Wilson, the boy who started building a fusion reactor in his parents garage that was successfully completed when he was just 14. This not onlyb made him one of just 32 people who have ever done so but also the youngest. He wants his life to be dedicated to making the world safer and better and he has a plan that is modeled after the Thorium Salt reactor with some rather important leaps in performance and safety.

Here's a Ted Talk for a decent overview ------ https://www.ted.com/talks/taylor_wil...rs?language=en
 
Old 08-30-2019, 05:52 PM   #463
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If we don't discover new antibiotics or new methods to fight the superbugs over population might not be a problem. At moment there is no incentive by the pharmaceutical companies to do any research.
 
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If we don't discover new antibiotics or new methods to fight the superbugs over population might not be a problem. At moment there is no incentive by the pharmaceutical companies to do any research.
Well, no. Because hospitals (understandably) won't use new antibiotics for fear of bacteria becoming resistant to them. They just buy a small amount and keep it in stock for emergencies. So no one can make money out of antibiotics any more and that is why there are no new ones being developed.

In the old days, new antibiotics were used freely and were so profitable that there were always newer ones coming down the line, so resistance was not a problem. Another example of capitalism at work!
 
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How many patents like this are locked away‽

Kind of why we have open source software, clone it another way!

I seem to recall photosynthesis to hydrogen being a thing?
 
  


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