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BajaNick 07-15-2007 03:42 PM

This is A great online movie.
If you have not seen it, this is an awesome online movie, if you have its always worth watching again, sorry if its been posted before.
WARNING-Some people will be very offended

XavierP 07-15-2007 03:55 PM

Ah, one of those films. Read the statement before you view the film (or not) - link to statement is abottom of the page that BajaNick linked to.

rickh 07-15-2007 04:15 PM

The movie doesn't work with Gnash. I guess they don't want freedom loving people to see it. Reading the "Statement," I was intrigued to see that they'll have their sources documented "someday." To me that usually means, "in the sweet bye and bye."

Not that I'm against people knowing the truth about the true power centers of world politics. But if you want to get the facts, don't go to some johnny-come-lately with a Flash creation program. Read serious long term studies at places like:

BajaNick 07-15-2007 05:46 PM

The film is well made and talks of many different subjects, and it is almost 2 hours long, kinda hard to watch on the tiny flash player, lol.

masonm 07-15-2007 07:16 PM

Yeah well made, lots of subjects, and long. That's the criteria for a great movie alright.

BajaNick 07-15-2007 07:59 PM

Heres a better version, large screen on google.

St.Jimmy 07-15-2007 10:40 PM

Torrent? I'm on dial up

SlowCoder 07-16-2007 11:06 PM

Very interesting and informative propaganda. They did a very nice job on the presentation also. However, it would be interesting to hear rebuttles from the people and organizations against whom it speaks.

The part with the microchips is very scary to me, as it touches me personally. There was a time when I thought "I don't want a cell phone. I want my privacy. I want to be out of touch with others. I know it can be used to track me." Now I have a cell, and happily use it all the time. Don't know what I'd do without it. :rolleyes:

alred 07-17-2007 03:57 PM

>> "The part with the microchips is very scary to me, as it touches me personally. There was a time when I thought "I don't want a cell phone. I want my privacy. I want to be out of touch with others. I know it can be used to track me."

people who are "too" concerned with this thing are the one who got no other better thing to save other than their mother earth ...


Hitboxx 07-18-2007 01:54 AM

* The Truth is out there *

schatoor 07-18-2007 10:49 AM

First lets agree not to make a flame war out of thread. This forum here is a actually not the appropriate place to discuss this, but I will say what I have to say anyway.

As a religious person, I actually do not have so much of a problem with the idea that allot of the myths and ideas of previous cultures have made their way in to the Bible (and the Quran). But to dismiss these scriptures outright because of this is in my opinion a great mistake. These scriptures tell you something and this worth your while to pay attention to it. If you think about it, all religions tell you:

-that there is a right and a wrong and all humans already know this intuitively. Not even an atheist will doubt the immorality of murder, for example.
-that there is more to every living being then just the material composition of it's body. Even though many here will deny this, I still think that some part of everyone will intuitively testify to the truth of this. Your thoughts and emotions, although these are physically realized by entirely material objects (pheromones, hormones, neurotransmitters, potential differences over cell membranes) nonetheless your experiences as a person are distinctively non-material.
Religion further more claims that this part will continue to exist even after death.
-that in the end, you will be held accountable for your actions, by the same laws that governs the cosmos.

You can believe this or not, but don't dismiss religion because some misguided individuals believe that the mythologies presented in the scriptures present the jest of religion and that the truths presented therein stands and falls with the factual accuracy of the myths.

alred 07-18-2007 11:40 AM

>> "* The Truth is out there *"

what makes people think that others are blind while they are not ... probably somehow it seems to them that others are a lot busier(or probably way too busy) than them ...


b0uncer 07-18-2007 11:48 AM

Ahh one of these again. I wonder why there still exists that many people with nothing better to do, and too much spare time.

alred 07-18-2007 11:57 AM

a chair , a computer , an internet connection , a keyboard that can types a bit and a mouse that just clicks do produce lots of spare time for many people ... ^_^


BajaNick 08-21-2007 11:38 PM

Well I personally think this is the most well made propaganda movie I have ever seen, It makes those Micheal Moore movies look like cartoons.
The way they use images of people jumping from windows of the towers in conjunction with music to emotionally stimulate the viewer before presenting them with absurb conspiracies later in the movie.
They use outtakes of all kinds of well known personalities that the viewers can connect with so the viewers are more likely to believe what they hear and see.
The end was a total shock because it went off on this almost right wing tangent, trying to coerce the viewer into thinking that federal taxes are illegal and the US government is trying to create some kind of global central bank, with no mention of any other countries that would have nothing to do with it, not to mention the silly ideas of planes that did not crash in the field and into the pentagon, If the planes did not crash , then where are they, where is the crew and passengers?
I did look into the anti religeous part and alot of it made sense but Im an athiest anyway and was probably subcounciously accepting the messages without a subjective view.

Great work on this propaganda film, If the CIA would have hired the makers of this film to coerse the world that the invasion of Iraq was legit, most people would have believed it.

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