Since the 80's "The Wall" has been to me Pink Floyd's superior album.

Now "The Wall' is this proposed abomination along our border with Mexico.

The way things are going with the new crew in Washington, after just a week, "The Wall" won't be necessary to keep people out. This country (the US) is on a course to be a very unpleasant place to live, and instead, "The Wall" will provide the same security the Berlin Wall did for East Berliners. Keeping people in.

Yet where were these anti Trump blowhards when Obama was deporting people in record numbers for the past 8 bloody years?
I feel this is relevant here too:


So it is politics on both sides, not like the anti Trumpers actually give two shits about immigration - its Trump now - lets whoop and holler like idiots - sorry I did not vote Trump but more and more I am seeing these liberals with my own eyes for what they really are. I didn't need FOX or anyone else to tell me.

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Oh and this...

Wait, so ....it was the democrats too? Aww shit, say it isn't sooo!

Hrmmmmmm, technically Trump is also legally covered in building the wall anyways.

Older article before Trump has taken the office, but again relevant.


Ok so couldn't have the dems along with Obama repealed said law when they had the chance? So again I ask, WHERE-THE-HELL were the democrats then? Surely they would have known about this law....I do not recall mass protests then... Again, I know its easy to attack the republicans , but the level of stupid on the dems is just as staggering.

You can quote any legal precedents you want, but building a wall is a disgusting thing to do.

Who enabled it though? That is what I keep trying to point out. What is more disgusting though, the wall itself or the legal framework allowed by both parties? The wall at that point is trivial.

Hi,

From your point of view.

I welcome a secure border and a secure nation. Trump said he would secure the border by building the 'Wall'. I support that action as many other U.S. Americans do.Obama was a do nothing president and just went around apologizing for all actions. Trump is not going to be a apoligetic president but a active secure minded president. He is adding another 5000 border agents and has their unions full support. I have not seen too many republicans get union support.

Liberals driven by the George Soro's groups will keep disarray and anarchy when paid to do so. Why feed that beast if you love your country?

Living on the Border. All I can say is , "Damn".

To my way of thinking, I wonder when it will be that (say ...) the Russian President declares: We do not have "a physical barrier, thousands of miles long," between the US and Canada, and I doubt that people living in Seattle would want a wall along their waterfront with Vancouver. Or Detroit, facing the Great Lakes. How curious that we don't seem to have a problem with a Northern neighbor whose people speak English and French, but not Spanish. Even though "illegal drugs and other problems" can, and do, come in from anywhere.

Physical walls don't keep things from coming into the country, and they never will. "Goods" can be shipped by any means and brought in through any port or port-of-entry, and it's simply a matter of numbers and of who you bribe.

I want to see the present barricades removed, since I think that they promote criminal behavior, and I certainly don't want to see my money being spent building more.

It would be nice if the Mexican government would say, "in response to this, we're withdrawing from the NAFTA treaty, which never did us any good anyway, and "we proclaim" that you have thirty days to get your factories out of our country. Otherwise, we're going to seize them." If one sovereign nation won't play kindly with another, that sovereign nation can respond in kind.

I kept hearing that name a few times but I have never paid much attention until now. Given what I have seen about this character - he is very shady - the fact that now even his home country of Hungary wants nothing to do with him, and his being the cause of the economic crash in Asia in the late '90s - and effectively implicitly affecting a nation's currency by betting against it - (he made billions apparently by also betting against the British pound causing it's fall also in the 90s) - I can now agree that this guy is just a rich piece of shit that causes worldwide chaos for his own gains. Somehow also I only skimmed the surface of him.

As far as liberals are concerned, I do not understand how they call themselves liberal to begin with. The outright hostility and intolerance from them, quite frankly is disturbing. I am all for equal rights and all, however it seems to me that they use that as simple cover - and you even see reverse racism from them. Then of course there is the who PC take over that I have been mentioning on other threads.

Jeebizz, I suggest that terms like "liberal" are "straw men" used in polemic arguments such as the ones we are now seeing. In my opinion, no such person actually exists.

The "liberals" (et al) are imaginary stereotypes for political opponents that you want to dismiss as-a-class, and/or that you want to stand-up as being in opposition to "your righteous and self-evident policies."

There is plenty of opposition, on both sides of "the Wall," to the Wall's existence and to its continued construction. As I've said before, for most of its history the border with Mexico was (much like the border with Canada) a very ephemeral thing which was marked with rocks ... rocks that sometimes ranchers took and re-used as door stoops. For a long time, no one exactly agreed on just where it was, and, since it mostly exists in lightly-populated Northern regions of Mexico, no one really cared much.

I can think of a thousand public-works projects far more important than "The 'Berlin Wall' of the United States." I don't want to see another public dime being spent on this thing, except for its removal. It is an affront to the sovereign nation to our South, and its very existence should be an affront to us, too.

I'll just leave this here, from Jimmy Dore today:







https://www.rt.com/news/375517-germany-france-uk-trump/


Again, I am throwing proverbial rocks at both sides, right now its the dems turn to get hit.

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So, I again say why all the hub-bub, bub? Why all of the sudden protest on Trump, when all of this was laid for by your progressive dems?

Even though I haven't been directly mentioning the wall, again this does relate - even though focus now is on incoming refugees - I apologise for hijacking the thread so I will make this the last - only because I just stumbled upon this, and this guy makes some interesting points:

The Styxhexenhammer Radio Show Episode 2

" The Wall " will be built, costing billions of dollars, and the " American Consumer " will pay for every cent of it!!

Good fences make good neighbors.

I've lived in Texas for most of my life. While the vast amount of illegal's who enter are not a security issue they do strain the public benefits programs. It is the crooked businesses who hire these illegals to work in a less than fair wage condition. There are Americans who would do the work but not under the conditions the illegals work at.

I was hunting in South Texas. The land owner said to be careful about people walking by themselves. He said the drug mules are followed by armed escorts.
We ought to protect the US from these armed drug gangs. Sadly the reasons that they can get here are also the reasons any sort of terrorist could gain access.