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Old 08-27-2011, 02:08 PM   #61
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Well-said. Alex Jones used to even work for the FBI!

TRhat doesn't invalidate the fact that a lot of what he says is true though.... I've been studying the dirty deeds of our globalist politicians for 25 years now- long before there was ever an internet. The interesting thing is, virtually everything I heard, came to pass- but usually not as quickly as those proclaiming it would have us believe- whether they were sincere and truthful, or propagandists.
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The truth, interspersed with just a few lies or exaggerations, is far more detrimental than something that is 100% lies, and will often cause even those who know and believe the truth to lose faith.

America IS already a police state. Hitler and Stalin would be envious. (Unfortunately, most of our fellow citizens are so oblivious, that they'll gladly kill and oppress and do the bidding of the globalist tyrants who run this country and the world, and say they are "fighting for our FREEDOM"!!! LOL!

We're screwed.
You know, I agree with all that (a rare thing).

I also agree that we are screwed, and there is little or nothing that can stop it.

Maybe only one thing can stop it: We must maintain our personal and mental integrity, we must keep our wits about us, respond rationally to all challenges, and avoid violence at all costs. They want to prove to us how much we need "them" to rule over us, to save us from ourselves. They want to frighten us, beat us, humiliate us into submission. Stand up for yourself and for those that cannot stand for themselves. Most of all, don't believe a word they say, think first. Don't let them win. Let us show them that we don't need them, nor their precious, nor their hatred, malice, and will to dominate all life.

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Old 08-27-2011, 11:39 PM   #62
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You know, I agree with all that (a rare thing).

I also agree that we are screwed, and there is little or nothing that can stop it.

Maybe only one thing can stop it: We must maintain our personal and mental integrity, we must keep our wits about us, respond rationally to all challenges, and avoid violence at all costs. They want to prove to us how much we need "them" to rule over us, to save us from ourselves. They want to frighten us, beat us, humiliate us into submission. Stand up for yourself and for those that cannot stand for themselves. Most of all, don't believe a word they say, think first. Don't let them win. Let us show them that we don't need them, nor their precious, nor their hatred, malice, and will to dominate all life.
This IS truly rare- I agree with that! I've said it a million times- if everybody would live their lives in a moral and responsible fashion, and seek to maintain their own freedom, there would exist no power strong enough to rule over us- nor any need for it. On the other hand, no matter how much political knowledge one possesses...no matter what they may know of Bilderbergers or Skull & Bones or even of what goes on behind closed doors at their local town councils, if they are willing to sell-out their own freedom and that of their neighbors; unable to take responsibility for their own lives and their families...willing to participate in "the system" to gain a little convenience or ill-gotten wealth; and if their own lives are dysfunctional, then the whole of society and the people they elect to "serve" them are just a reflection of those ways.

Even here and now, those of us who seek freedom, can still find a good deal of it, if we avoid entanglement with the system.

On the other hand though.... I once responded to a for sale ad on Craigslist. The lady who responded ended up putting my name on some kind of mailing list comprised of people like you and I. I'd delete most of the emails- as it was stuff I already knew...or, those absurd emails asking you to sign petitions or make phone calls (LOL!)...but what really irked me, was that that lady once sent an email of her own, encouraging others to not pay their legitimately-owed debts (credit cards, mortgages, etc.) because "the sh*t would hit the fan soon"! She mentioned that that was her own modus operandi. At that point, I told her off, and mentioned that she would be one of the first in line for the concentration camps that she was always warning about.

That really kills me, though- I mean, why would anyone look forward to a world full of survivors like that, when they are just as corrupt as what we are trying to get away from?!

The good and the innocent will be taking more and more abuse as things progress, for sure...but personal integrity (Even when no one's looking but God) and maintaining the principles of justice and freedom in our own lives and among those with whom we come into contact, will go a long way to letting us enjoy better lives, and in helping to make this world more hospitable for those with whom we come into contact. I will use violence when confronted with violence...but I haven't had to yet.

Despite the fact that world keeps getting exponentially worse, and has seriously degraded in my lifetime, I have to say that I am enjoying the best days of my life right now, simply by living by the principles which I advocate. I hope it is the same for you.
 
Old 08-28-2011, 08:03 AM   #63
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That's all good to hear.

There is one more thing I was wanting to say on current matters. All these protests/riots/rebels are the work of the gubmint. I'm sure in London all they had to do was send some covert ops at night to set some fires and then have the cops on the street the next day arresting people that were out there. I'm also sure the same will happen all over the world, and of course as a result all public gathering will be banned and the police state will rule strong. Violence should not be used in such a case, because it only makes it worse. Violence should be used only as a last resort -- as a self defense against harm and death. If someone comes to your door to take you away to some camp, then it may be time to use it. Otherwise, going on the street and looting or burning cars ... that is not when or how it should be used.
 
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That's all good to hear.

There is one more thing I was wanting to say on current matters. All these protests/riots/rebels are the work of the gubmint. I'm sure in London all they had to do was send some covert ops at night to set some fires and then have the cops on the street the next day arresting people that were out there. I'm also sure the same will happen all over the world, and of course as a result all public gathering will be banned and the police state will rule strong. Violence should not be used in such a case, because it only makes it worse. Violence should be used only as a last resort -- as a self defense against harm and death. If someone comes to your door to take you away to some camp, then it may be time to use it. Otherwise, going on the street and looting or burning cars ... that is not when or how it should be used.
Exactly!

I do think that the riots may have been organic- just your typical people with the entitlement mentality...or started by some covert agents- as a lot of our riots here in the US were in the 60's.

Whether it's democrats vs. republicans, or communists vs. socialists, etc. it's always the same thing- the old Hegelian dialectic, but the side of sanity and truth and freedom is never represented- I guess because we do not seek to use violence and terror to coerce others- and those who do use it....well, I guess it could be termed the battle of the tyrants- as their actions demonstrate that they have no interest in liberty, but just in propagating their own cause; and that they are willing to use the same tactics as those whom they oppose.

Like you said, I will defend my home and family and freedom by whatever means available....but to try and coerce others through violence, theft and destruction of property is the diametric opposite of what I stand for.
 
Old 08-29-2011, 01:22 AM   #65
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Unlike Windows, Linux lives on the internet and would grind to a halt if the internet were shut down.

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Significant part of the internet root servers are located in the us, and those who aren't are mostly operated by us companies subject to us law. Technically the us govs are actually in quite good position to do that

I think its the time to localised mirroring and dns'ing of data, so that internet access in specific location is not going to be interrupted because of tampering with a centralised node. For example, distributed dns and caches on end user's computers, usable on p2p basis, and linked over p2p wifi
Interesting. So if more of the internet's root servers were located in other countries, wouldn't the internet kill switch be less of a threat?



About the posts that are irrelevant to this thread, I refuse to say anything else.

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Old 09-05-2011, 05:22 PM   #66
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The " freedom " now enjoyed and extensively used on the Internet should be maintained!!
 
Old 09-05-2011, 09:10 PM   #67
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So we should let persons unknown attack over the internet? Even I don't leave my keys in my car. Why would I leave the keys to the internet so some crook can take it for a joy ride?
 
Old 09-06-2011, 12:18 PM   #68
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Persons unknown are usually the gubmint. In this case they want to get rid of anonymity.
 
  


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