I found this line on another board, and decided it deserves to be spread far and wide:

I think you mean...




I found this line on another board, and decided it deserves to be spread far and wide:

I simply copied and pasted the original message. The author was speaking to americans. Personally, I think it is a great line.

I am purposefully tuning out when it comes to the elections here, with the exception of watching The Daily Show. I'm voting for a third party. I am tired of only one or the other party in control. And a back and forth between Bush and Clinton is not my idea of much a change. Pappa Bush in the 1980s, Clinton in the 90s, then Dubya 8 years, and now back to Clinton? Are you fucking kidding me!?

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How is this a real democracy anyways, if only a republican or democrat ever gets elected? Whenever a third party comes out that has some kind of momentum, the republicans and democrats gang up and do everything possible to prevent having a third party candidate (ie. Ross Perot, the ONLY third party that ever got the farthest in such a race). He had some pretty good ideas too. Anyways, I don't care too much for the presidency. Really now, whats the point? I mean, why is it that a president can be in office, for 4 to 8 years, but there are senators and congressmen/women, that spend a fucking lifetime in office!? How is THAT a democracy? I find it hard for much change to take place when you have the same people in the senate and congress, ie. Ted Kennedy, Strom Thurmand (who fucking died while he was still in office at like 90!), and so on. I believe it was Robin Williams who said: "Politicians are a lot like diapers. They must be changed regularly." (At least I think it was Williams, I know it was from a comedian).
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Screw the elections!

...From a very jaded US citizen.

One thing I've learned from watching the presidential elections is that American politicians pile on the fake sincerity twice as much as the British.

So, what's your point?

It's politics. It doesn't really matter what you stand for, or what you plan to do TO your country, as long as you can make the citizens believe you're better for the country than your opponents. All it is is a race to the finish line. "Lookie me! I'm Hillary, and I have more votes than Obama!" They can't even agree on issues when they're both Democrats, because they're too busy one-upping each other.

And the press doesn't make things any better, either. They highlight all the things that really don't matter. "Bitter, bitter, bitter!" Who cares?

That, and I don't think there is a British politician playing off the whole 'vote for me, or you will die!' scare tactic. Besides fake sincerity, US politicians are using the population's own fear, and whatever else it is to their advantage, and the majority here bite at it, hook-line-and-sinker! I hope I am not wrong, but I think I have more respect for a British politician, than for an American one. As far as I'm concered, European democracy is far ahead, of what is known as a 'democracy' here.

Anyways I, like possibly the very other few that perhaps wish not to be identified would not qualify as a 'good Americian', because I don't take whatever the government says at face value. Don't rely on US only media for news, and oh gee, I just have this nasty habit of, oh I don't know....whats that thing that most people often do not do these days..... Oh of course.... thinking for one's self, and not being told, what to think, what to buy and what to eat, like all the television commercials tell me to do.

Wow. Look how serious this has gotten.

Me, I gotta go with the guy with the wife with the great tits and beer distributorship.

I mean, after all...

Jeebizz... I think the main reason for that is that it's (alledgedly) the party you vote for, not the person, the prospective Prime Minister is merely the leader of the chosen party. Obviously not totally the case, but Gordon Brown would lose a Charm-off against a stoat. Then again, we didn't even vote for him at all, he just took over. And the Daily Show? Surely you should keep watching for Colbert... You'll never know the real truthiness without him.

jiml8... it was (mainly) a joke, like yours was... ok?

Or maybe it's because over there you guys have somewhat functional laws against the press slandering/lying about politicians (and other people). Here in the USA, the media simply repeats lies and hides behind the fig leaf that they're just reporting what they hear (never mind about doing the minimal amount of effort to actually check if it even remotely resembles the truth).

And because our mainstream news media never bothers to even minimally check the truth, the liars who feed them the lies just lie and lie and lie some more knowing that they'll get away with it and it'll work.

yeah that's just about totally wrong... unfortunately TBH people do get brought to book on those sorts of things sometimes, but only sometimes.

I'd vote for John Mccain.

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Agree with about 50%-70% of what he said, but agree 0% with democrats. Third party sounds.... eh - maybe 10-20%, but you know no matter what they aren't going to win. No matter how much you say that I and everyone else should vote for them anyways - it still won't work.

Colbert seems to be trying too hard with his material, and to me he just comes off as making fun of the democrats more than making fun of republicans, whereas The Daily Show takes aim at both.

I couldn't, because I don't want a Commnder-in-Chief who gets Sunni and Shia confused! And outright says he wants to keep a presence in Iraq for the next 100 years!!!!! WHAT!? And the economy? He is still following the same plan as Bush... It is almost like a continuation of the Bush legacy. As well as his logic.

"We are in Iraq, because Al Qaeda is in Iraq". Well were they there when we invaded!? Of course not you fucking Jackass! (aimed at Mccain, not you colinstu). Al Qaeda is in Iraq because of the power vacuum after the toppling of Saddam! (which he wasn't involved with 9/11, and did not have any 'WMDs', confirmed by Hans Blixt) They were NOT there before we went in.

Mccain is too old, and perhaps way too senial (more than Regan), to be in office. Lets not also forget the endorsement by John Hagee, and his fanatic view that Katrina was God's punishment for the gays in New Orleans, and other vile shit this guy likes to spew out (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa...8/02/28/hagee/). Obama may have had the same controversy with Rev. Wright: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremia...on_controversy, as well as Louis Farrakhan. I at least give some credit to Obama of at least distancing himself from Louis, and Wright. Mccain just happily went on accepting Hagee's endorsement! And people wonder why separation of Church and State is important.

I won't vote for McCain because he'll continue the disastrous policies of the Bush administration for another four years. He has no plan for Iraq or the War on Terror; heck he can't even tell the difference between Sunni and Shia. We have so many problems, the last thing we need is another four years of the failed neo-conservative ideology that government can't solve any problems (a self fulfilling prophecy, when those in charge of the government believe it).

When McCain confuses the Shiite Iranians with the Sunni Al Qaeda, it's not funny. We can't have someone like that in charge of the War on Terror. And we really can't afford to be in Iraq for another hundred years.

Just write my name in, that's what I'm going to do. I meet all the qualifications to be President as laid out in our Constitution. I don't have enough friends to fill all the posts in government so I will need to interview potential candidates. That actually might work because I won't feel bad when I fire them for being incompetent boobs.