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Old 01-26-2017, 04:45 PM   #106
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And, if you're a tech worker in the United States on a non-immigrant visa, you'd better be applying for citizenship double-quick.
Looks as if EU nationals might be facing something similar in the UK after Brexit...


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Old 01-26-2017, 07:18 PM   #107
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Well, at least here in the US, it has always been ... ambiguous ... just what "immigration" actually means.

A long time ago, it meant, "huddled masses yearning to breathe free." It meant "Ellis Island." It meant: a pathway to "becoming a naturalized citizen."

But, here, it doesn't mean that, anymore.

Today, it means: (just call it what it is ...) Indentured Servitude.

. . . yes, "in direct violation of the 13th Amendment." But it makes gobs of money for Facebook, so who cares.

The truth of the matter is that now several million people find themselves "among 17 other people sleeping in sleeping-bags in a two-room apartment in an otherwise-tony suburb of Nashville, Tennessee," until the bus comes by ... [i](they don't have a car) ... to take them to their place of work. Where they will exist for 2/4/6 years until their visa runs out and they're tossed back to Bangladesh where they came from.

Trouble is, "Mister Donald Trump" used these people, and his companies to this day benefit from their exploitation. Therefore, is meaningful reform likely? I doubt.

Likewise, I daresay you find an analogous situation: "Why were all of these people brought here?" Very simply: to kick natives out of their jobs.

Blunt ... unpleasant ... not exactly politically-correct ... but ... ... true.

Yeah, "it's not the face of capitalism that we prefer to think about."

The euphemisms abound ... perhaps to explain why not a single member of "the best and the brightest™" exists – or could possibly exist – "anywhere in-between Maine and Hawaii." Or, why we call our slaves "guest workers" nowadays. And, so on and on and on and on and ...

In various ways, using various euphemisms appropriate to each various situation, "the capitalists conspired to screw us, and to screw our respective nations." And, to tell us all that "we just have to put up with it, because this is the New Normal.™"

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Old 01-28-2017, 01:09 PM   #108
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...And blame Russia.
 
Old 01-28-2017, 02:21 PM   #109
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Post Presidents Putin & Trump speak by phone for first time

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https://www.rt.com/news/375416-putin...elephone-call/

Russian President Vladimir Putin has had his first telephone conversation with newly inaugurated US President Donald Trump. They spoke of joint efforts in battling the major threat of international terrorism, the Kremlin said in an official statement.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38773608

US President Donald Trump has said he wants a "great relationship" with Russia, but would not say if he would lift US sanctions against the country.
At least there is dialog - of course the dems are going to keep whining, and republicans are playing the sanctions card - Trump is just opening a conversation - nobody said anything about lifting sanctions against Russia.
 
Old 01-28-2017, 10:27 PM   #110
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Hillary Clinton has plenty of political-power chips that she has accumulated over the years on the expectation that she would become President and then cash them in. But the simple reality is that her political career is finished.
Can you say....Ouch?


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Old 01-29-2017, 10:14 AM   #111
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:50 PM   #112
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list25 Skip to 13:25min (or watch the entire vid, either way )
none of the above will happen the election was rigged so card could
maintain the status quo
the wall is a joke the employers who own the GOP will never allow it
if he even tries to build the wall the GOP will impeach him so fast
he will be out of office so fast the news will be reported after the
fact
tariffs on imported goods another joke the WTO treaty is the law of the
land
ending the EPA and OHSA yes the first day
labor laws gone

but when it's all done the bitch would have done the same things
the elections are a joke because in deed not words there is only
one political party the demoRATs have been assimilated back in the mid
70s
 
Old 01-29-2017, 06:54 PM   #113
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but when it's all done the bitch would have done the same things
the elections are a joke because in deed not words there is only
one political party the demoRATs have been assimilated back in the mid
70s
That is what I have also been pointing out in other threads - if it were her - building the wall, continuing Bush's policies (as Obama did) further mass surveillance - its ok because its the democrats, and our president is either black or a woman - so you cannot criticise(because you are then a racist or a sexist) The left have a holier than thou attitude and you see it for what they are now - and these constant anti Trump protests - they do not realise they are just garnering more support for Trump. These SJW, PC neo-hippies caused Trump. Thanks for that, ya bunch of morons.
 
Old 01-30-2017, 10:50 AM   #114
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I wonder if we would really see such cooperation if it were Clinton in office? No of course not - Russia bad!

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Old 01-31-2017, 03:12 PM   #115
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Old 01-31-2017, 03:24 PM   #116
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Old 02-01-2017, 09:28 AM   #117
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Personally, I think that the United States' relations with other countries – specifically including both Russia and China – finally have the opportunity to be "better than they have been in many decades."

I think that plenty of people in Washington, DC "still have their a*ses stuck in The Cold War." They need a bogeyman to get school-kids to "Duck and Cover" on cue. They don't need a national leader who speaks his mind. They don't need CrossTalk. They need "a faceless, distant, bogeyman" who will be, in the eyes and minds of every member of the American public, "just as horrible and as threatening as they have been told that it was." A bogeyman that the American public will be convinced to continue to spend "##CLASSIFIED## dollars a ##CLASSIFIED##, forever(!)," to "defend against."

Meanwhile, with regards to China, the USA still can't perceive the biggest and most populous nation on Earth to be anything other than a culpable manufacturing-center which is happy to accept United States Dollars – which w quite-literally conjure up, 24/7/365 – in return for tangible goods of every description. America still can't comprehend that the President of China is the one who actually said "no" to the TPP treaty proposal. If China started using those facilities – having, with a stroke of a pen, seized and nationalized them – to provide good things for its own citizens, the USA would be sitting high and dry with no alternative in place. ("Attack China?" Oh, how cute ...)

Can international relations between these countries get better? Yeah, because I daresay they really can't get worse. (And, in saying that, I am frankly excluding the Doomsday angle.)

What if, by saying that we intend to put "America first" and that we expect everyone else to do the same with regard to their country, we might actually clear some smoke-filled air in international relations? Because, what we're doing right now ("just because we've always done it over the last sixty years") is neither "sound defense policy," nor "sustainable, truly fair, trade." And no one seems to be talking plainly about what has always been right in front of their noses.

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Old 02-01-2017, 11:19 AM   #118
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Personally, I think that the United States' relations with other countries – specifically including both Russia and China – finally have the opportunity to be "better than they have been in many decades."
Well, if there might not be a war between Russia and the US - it looks like Trump is starting to really irk China - and I fear that Trump might be influenced by those that may not be anti-Russian but actually anti-Chinese.

John Bolton - Time to revisit One China Policy


If I am not mistaken per the Chinese the One China Policy is non-negotiable - which is already in a complicated position since whenever the US keeps selling military hardware to Taiwan - though Beijing turns a blind eye to that - Taiwan is small-fry after all - but the phone call between Trump and the Taiwanese Prime Minister is what ruffled Chinese feathers.

I feel like we are pretty much watching a game of Risk play before our eyes - and all we can really do is hold our breaths in anticipation from time to time.

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Old 02-01-2017, 02:09 PM   #119
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Just a brief history lesson about the situation of Taiwan, and the One China Policy: Is Taiwan a country... or part of China?
 
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Well, if there might not be a war between Russia and the US - it looks like Trump is starting to really irk China - and I fear that Trump might be influenced by those that may not be anti-Russian but actually anti-Chinese.

I feel like we are pretty much watching a game of Risk play before our easy - and all we can really do is hold our breaths in anticipation from time to time.
But the point made in the video, that "oooh, oooh, we mustn't irritate China!," also needs to be re-visited. And maybe the first step would be to start closing those China-based manufactories and insist on constructing them within the United States. (Which you could do by imposing a tariff that starts small but escalates every six months, along with substantial tax-breaks and other incentives to re-activate the US's vast but moldering manufacturing infrastructure.) If you are no longer "blindly dependent on China" for the manufacture of ... well ... everything(!) ... then you have some maneuvering room. And, until you measurably do that, China will know that you're toothless.

This is what has baffled me for so long:
Quote:
"Make it 'anywhere else but here,' employing 'anyone else but the people who live here.'"

What sort of a hairball strategy is that?! ... "And what, exactly, is your 'Plan B?'"
The USA simply thought that it found a way to lower labor costs and manufacturing costs, and it didn't mind removing its entire "physical fitness" and turning into the world's biggest couch potato. It now attracts foreign companies to build plants on American soil, while an American manufacturer wants to remove its plants to Mexico. Clearly, there is something drastically wrong with the incentive and tax structures here, and there has been for a very long time.

Even though people seem to squawk at the slogan, "America First!," and of course it is just a slogan, it nevertheless contains in it the crux of a very sound idea that I think every nation should be following. Your infrastructure, and your labor-force composed first of your citizens, should always be first in your decisions, actions and policies. And it should also be taken for granted that every other nation is doing the same thing.

If countries are "looking out for themselves first," then every international trader knows that they will be facing firmly-entrenched and well-developed domestic competition. Everywhere.

If countries are "looking out for themselves first," they are thereby hedging their bets against silly situations like the one we have in China, where we literally cannot make, say, "that electronic gadget in your pocket" anywhere(!) in the United States of America.

That's "a national security vulnerability," folks. If someone-else can hang you out to dry and you have no means to do anything whatsoever about it ... because you've become flaccid. That's actually an extremely dangerous situation for hundreds of millions of citizens to be in: that "you don't have a 'Plan B.'"

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