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Old 08-08-2019, 04:26 PM   #1
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The latest Windoze support scam phone call


This is hilarious and I just had to post it somewhere...

The phone call today said something to the effect "..regarding your Micro$oft support contract... we need to refund your money because the company is going out of business... please call our toll free number..."

I did not call but I suspect they would ask for your credit card number to "refund" your money

At least it was different.

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Old 08-09-2019, 01:06 AM   #2
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Yup, I received similar ones up here. I have two lines in my house that only differ by one number. The one line was called seconds after the other. The messages "Cathy" left stated she was from the Microsoft Refund Center and I was owed money.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 02:01 AM   #3
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I never ever received one.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 05:28 AM   #4
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I'm still waiting for my IP to be turned off.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 05:35 AM   #5
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There is a recent one circulating via email relating to Windows 7 EoL, claiming that computers will "stop working" in January 2020 (when 7's extended support ends).
 
Old 08-09-2019, 06:19 AM   #6
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Seems this isn't anything new, so you might get a "robo call" from the nonexistent "Microsoft Refund Dept" too - they must know I use Linux since I haven't been called or emailed yet. Although, I did get a call from a private number that I didn't answer the other day - so perhaps I missed it.

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There is a recent one circulating via email relating to Windows 7 EoL, claiming that computers will "stop working" in January 2020 (when 7's extended support ends).
Now that's funny... "your computer will stop working when support ends". "Your PC is going to blow up when support ends" is even funnier, particularly if believed - you just imagine someone then... "quick, start digging throw it in before it goes ka-boom".

Even more reason not to use Windoze...
 
Old 08-09-2019, 06:43 AM   #7
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ondoho, would you like the number so you can call them and ask them to call you back?

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Old 08-09-2019, 08:46 AM   #8
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Now that's funny... "your computer will stop working when support ends". Even more reason not to use Windoze...
Why is that sillier than the "millennium bug"?

Incidentally I get a lot of calls nowadays that hang up as soon as I give them my number. I seem to be on some list of hopeless cases, the opposite of a "suckers' list".

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Old 08-09-2019, 10:07 AM   #9
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This is hilarious and I just had to post it somewhere...

The phone call today said something to the effect "..regarding your Micro$oft support contract... we need to refund your money because the company is going out of business... please call our toll free number..."

I did not call but I suspect they would ask for your credit card number to "refund" your money

At least it was different.

Ken
They are never getting tired of trying to steal our money.
I really hope that everyone has been very familiar with how these scammers work. I have just Googled about it and found some reports filed at https://www.whycall.me/485-272-2972.html about similar scams since last year!
 
Old 08-09-2019, 10:51 AM   #10
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Now that's funny... "your computer will stop working when support ends". "Your PC is going to blow up when support ends" is even funnier, particularly if believed - you just imagine someone then... "quick, start digging throw it in before it goes ka-boom".

Even more reason not to use Windoze...
Yes, but there are plenty of people who will be taken in...

I've had calls from a few worried relatives...
 
Old 08-09-2019, 09:54 PM   #11
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Why is that sillier than the "millennium bug"?
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Good old Y2K hey? Yeah, I remember that. I do remember thinking "just because the date maybe wrong; how does that mean nuclear power plants are going to melt down? Or ATM machines are going to spit out cash without someone legitimately withdrawing cash?"

So yeah, it was pretty stupid, and just meant that the date wouldn't be correct. So unless your talking about software that relies on the actual date to process stuff; then I couldn't see how the time would be affected.

Interestingly enough, it seems the latest scams are just an extension if you will of exploiting a legitimate problem by people looking to make money, by scamming people into believing that the effects of said problem are going to be much greater than what they really are. Or to put it another way; exploiting people's ignorance.

I think the following is very relevant here;

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A variety of fringe groups and individuals such as those within some fundamentalist religious organizations, survivalists, cults, anti-social movements, self-sufficiency enthusiasts, communes and those attracted to conspiracy theories, embraced Y2K as a tool to engender fear and provide a form of evidence for their respective theories. End-of-the-world scenarios and apocalyptic themes were common in their communication.

Interest in the survivalist movement peaked in 1999 in its second wave for that decade, triggered by Y2K fears. In the time before extensive efforts were made to rewrite computer programming codes to mitigate the possible impacts, some writers such as Gary North, Ed Yourdon, James Howard Kunstler,[53] and Ed Yardeni anticipated widespread power outages, food and gasoline shortages, and other emergencies. North and others raised the alarm because they thought Y2K code fixes were not being made quickly enough. While a range of authors responded to this wave of concern, two of the most survival-focused texts to emerge were Boston on Y2K (1998) by Kenneth W. Royce, and Mike Oehler's The Hippy Survival Guide to Y2K.

Y2K was also exploited by some fundamentalist and charismatic Christian leaders throughout the Western world, particularly in North America and Australia.[54] Their promotion of the perceived risks of Y2K was combined with end times thinking and apocalyptic prophecies in an attempt to influence followers.[54] The New York Times reported in late 1999, "The Rev. Jerry Falwell suggested that Y2K would be the confirmation of Christian prophecy  God's instrument to shake this nation, to humble this nation. The Y2K crisis might incite a worldwide revival that would lead to the rapture of the church. Along with many survivalists, Mr. Falwell advised stocking up on food and guns".[55] Adherents in these movements were encouraged to engage in food hoarding, take lessons in self-sufficiency, and the more extreme elements planned for a total collapse of modern society. The Chicago Tribune reported that some large fundamentalist churches, motivated by Y2K, were the sites for flea market-like sales of paraphernalia designed to help people survive a social order crisis ranging from gold coins to wood-burning stoves.[56] Betsy Hart, writing for the Deseret News reported that a lot of the more extreme evangelicals used Y2K to promote a political agenda in which downfall of the government was a desired outcome in order to usher in Christ's reign. She also noted that, "the cold truth is that preaching chaos is profitable and calm doesn't sell many tapes or books"[57] These types of fears and conspiracies were described dramatically by New Zealand-based Christian prophetic author and preacher Barry Smith in his publication, "I Spy with my Little Eye", where he dedicated a whole chapter to Y2K.[58] Some expected, at times through so-called prophecies, that Y2K would be the beginning of a worldwide Christian revival.[59]

It became clear in the aftermath that leaders of these fringe groups had cleverly used fears of apocalyptic outcomes to manipulate followers into dramatic scenes of mass repentance or renewed commitment to their groups, additional giving of funds and more overt commitment to their respective organizations or churches. The Baltimore Sun noted this in their article, "Apocalypse Now  Y2K spurs fears", where they reported the increased call for repentance in the populace in order to avoid God's wrath.[60] Christian leader, Col Stringer, in his commentary has published, "Fear-creating writers sold over 45 million books citing every conceivable catastrophe from civil war, planes dropping from the sky to the end of the civilised world as we know it. Reputable preachers were advocating food storage and a "head for the caves" mentality. No banks failed, no planes crashed, no wars or civil war started. And yet not one of these prophets of doom has ever apologised for their scare-mongering tactics."[59] Some prominent North American Christian ministries and leaders generated huge personal and corporate profits through sales of Y2K preparation kits, generators, survival guides, published prophecies and a wide range of other associated merchandise. Christian journalist, Rob Boston, has documented this[54] in his article "False Prophets, Real Profits  Religious Right Leaders' Wild Predictions of Y2K Disaster Didn't Come True, But They Made Money Anyway".
Seems to be the way scammers generally operate.
 
Old 08-10-2019, 05:59 AM   #12
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Interesting quote. I could reword it, substituting "no-deal brexit" for "Y2K", and it would be a fairly exact reproduction of the current state of the British mainstream press. Everything from mass starvation to World War 3 is being threatened. The main difference is that, as far as I can see, the religious maniacs haven't climbed on the bandwagon yet.

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Old 08-12-2019, 02:53 AM   #13
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"no deal Brexit" is probably nothing much to worry about if you're wealthy, don't [need to] work or don't have a family to feed... in fact there are certainly those among the ruling classes who stand to gain.

For the other 99% of us however...

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Old 08-12-2019, 07:18 AM   #14
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It still won't cause World War 3, and the sky isn't going to fall on us either.
 
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"World war 3" and "sky is falling" are phrases used by those dismissing what they perceive as unfounded hysteria in others.

And that's the whole problem - the worries over a "no deal" Brexit are not hysteria in the first place. They're very valid in fact. Most businesses and most of the political parties are rightly concerned about the "no deal" scenario, only a minority among the rich elite - including Eton educated types like Johnson who, have a net worth of over 1M, are seemingly unconcerned (because of course they have plans in place and stand to gain, or at least not lose out).

Johnson who printed a massive lie on the side of his tour bus during the referendum campaign, is firmly on course for "no deal".

It's not really comparable with the "millennium bug".
 
  


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