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Old 10-18-2016, 07:11 AM   #1
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The Kali posts are ramping up...


Kids must be marathon-ing Mr. Robot again.

To be clear, I definitely have no problem with anyone using their distro of choice. It just seems like a waste of time for everyone to answer simple Linux questions repeatedly for someone who's going to get frustrated and bored in a few days.

Meh, maybe the next "hax0r" TV show will feature Win or Mac. Or Plan 9!
 
Old 10-18-2016, 07:41 AM   #2
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lol
Comes and goes- happened before it was called kali too.
 
Old 10-18-2016, 08:33 AM   #3
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Kali threads are treated like Ebola cases by me.

Too bad. Soo Sad, Sux to be you. I guess penetration only happens in your mind.

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Old 10-18-2016, 08:45 AM   #4
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The Kali posts are ramping up...
Such as this one?

This is what happens, they see something and they wish to mimic. I bet they're not all kids though ...
 
Old 10-18-2016, 09:09 AM   #5
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Such as this one?
Well played, sir.
 
Old 10-18-2016, 10:26 AM   #6
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Old 10-18-2016, 05:43 PM   #7
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Wile I am personally only mildly interested in "pen testing" of my own systems to be aware of vulnerability and guard against them, and on the surface the childlike attraction of such distros as Kali are a bit frivolous and laughable, OTOH it seems Cyber Warfare is an actual and evolving reality. If you doubt this, research StuxNet and beyond. The sophistication is stunning. Every country is going to need more hackers, not less or risk being absolutely crippled. Every individual will ultimately be affected. Stay ignorant at ones own risk.... "A Word, to the wise, is sufficient"
 
Old 10-18-2016, 06:25 PM   #8
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The Kali posts are ramping up...
Such as this one?
Well, recursion IS a Unix feature.
 
Old 10-18-2016, 07:33 PM   #9
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A recent TV show on our government cybersecurity showed a training exercise - one team trying to hack power infrastructure, another team defending. As the teams booted their systems, they were quite obviously using kali.
Nothing wrong with the software under discussion.
 
Old 10-18-2016, 07:50 PM   #10
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On the old Usenet group, alt.folklore.urban, when public internet access was still largely restricted to academia, the regulars used to complain that they could tell when school had started up again by the influx of new, (how shall I put this?) not necessarily adept, users.

AFU still exists, but is a shadow of its former self.

Following a tutorial in Linux Voice, I did some exercises in Kali; I was mostly interested in learning more about pen-testing; to steal a phrase from the railroad, I wanted to become "familiar, but not conversant" with it. Kali is very nice piece of work, if pen-testing's your thing. It's pretty lousy for normal desktop usage, though. (Tony Beamus of the Sunday Morning Linux Review has been doing some advanced courses in pen-testing; he mentioned on the podcast that Kali was used in his classes.)

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Old 10-18-2016, 10:07 PM   #11
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Kali is very nice piece of work, if pen-testing's your thing. It's pretty lousy for normal desktop usage, though.
That's the problem though for most of the Kali posts. It's people that are new users, saw Kali on TV, and want to run Kali with networking autostarting, wifi, installed on their desktops as a desktop OS, which is totally against what Kali is designed for. And the decisions made to make Kali what it is, make it very insecure when run as a desktop OS without major changes.
 
Old 10-18-2016, 10:25 PM   #12
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That's the problem though for most of the Kali posts. It's people that are new users, saw Kali on TV . . .
I would add that most of the would-be Kali users who fall in that category have no idea how complex, laborious, and time-consuming pen-testing is. It's nothing like the "'I'm through the firewall' flying GUI windows" theatre you see on television shows such as the various permutations of NCIS and the justly-defunct CSI: Cyber. I'm willing to give NCIS sort of a pass, because it doesn't pretend to be technologically accurate and the tech fairy tales are generally peripheral to the plot, but there was no excuse for CSI: Cyber.

(Back in the olden days, we would have called the Kali users of which you speak "script kiddies.")

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Old 10-19-2016, 06:29 AM   #13
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(Back in the olden days, we would have called the Kali users of which you speak "script kiddies.")
Show up here all dialed in (MrRobot. sucks) but get twisted and post "224.0.0.2 is bombarding my firewall"
Sheeple. Bless their hearts.

Kali is an automatic "ignore this thread" to me.
Just sayin'.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 07:54 AM   #14
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"You're just like MrRobot".

... happens all the time when you're using a CLI for the usual boring network stuff (and it appears to be a compliment).

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Old 10-19-2016, 08:32 AM   #15
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No different than the influx of NS2 messages that crop up each Fall and Summer session.
 
  


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