GeneralThis forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!
Notices
Welcome to LinuxQuestions.org, a friendly and active Linux Community.
You are currently viewing LQ as a guest. By joining our community you will have the ability to post topics, receive our newsletter, use the advanced search, subscribe to threads and access many other special features. Registration is quick, simple and absolutely free. Join our community today!
Note that registered members see fewer ads, and ContentLink is completely disabled once you log in.
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you need to reset your password, click here.
Having a problem logging in? Please visit this page to clear all LQ-related cookies.
Get a virtual cloud desktop with the Linux distro that you want in less than five minutes with Shells! With over 10 pre-installed distros to choose from, the worry-free installation life is here! Whether you are a digital nomad or just looking for flexibility, Shells can put your Linux machine on the device that you want to use.
Exclusive for LQ members, get up to 45% off per month. Click here for more info.
To be clear, I definitely have no problem with anyone using their distro of choice. It just seems like a waste of time for everyone to answer simple Linux questions repeatedly for someone who's going to get frustrated and bored in a few days.
Meh, maybe the next "hax0r" TV show will feature Win or Mac. Or Plan 9!
Wile I am personally only mildly interested in "pen testing" of my own systems to be aware of vulnerability and guard against them, and on the surface the childlike attraction of such distros as Kali are a bit frivolous and laughable, OTOH it seems Cyber Warfare is an actual and evolving reality. If you doubt this, research StuxNet and beyond. The sophistication is stunning. Every country is going to need more hackers, not less or risk being absolutely crippled. Every individual will ultimately be affected. Stay ignorant at ones own risk.... "A Word, to the wise, is sufficient"
A recent TV show on our government cybersecurity showed a training exercise - one team trying to hack power infrastructure, another team defending. As the teams booted their systems, they were quite obviously using kali.
Nothing wrong with the software under discussion.
On the old Usenet group, alt.folklore.urban, when public internet access was still largely restricted to academia, the regulars used to complain that they could tell when school had started up again by the influx of new, (how shall I put this?) not necessarily adept, users.
AFU still exists, but is a shadow of its former self.
Following a tutorial in Linux Voice, I did some exercises in Kali; I was mostly interested in learning more about pen-testing; to steal a phrase from the railroad, I wanted to become "familiar, but not conversant" with it. Kali is very nice piece of work, if pen-testing's your thing. It's pretty lousy for normal desktop usage, though. (Tony Beamus of the Sunday Morning Linux Review has been doing some advanced courses in pen-testing; he mentioned on the podcast that Kali was used in his classes.)
Kali is very nice piece of work, if pen-testing's your thing. It's pretty lousy for normal desktop usage, though.
That's the problem though for most of the Kali posts. It's people that are new users, saw Kali on TV, and want to run Kali with networking autostarting, wifi, installed on their desktops as a desktop OS, which is totally against what Kali is designed for. And the decisions made to make Kali what it is, make it very insecure when run as a desktop OS without major changes.
That's the problem though for most of the Kali posts. It's people that are new users, saw Kali on TV . . .
I would add that most of the would-be Kali users who fall in that category have no idea how complex, laborious, and time-consuming pen-testing is. It's nothing like the "'I'm through the firewall' flying GUI windows" theatre you see on television shows such as the various permutations of NCIS and the justly-defunct CSI: Cyber. I'm willing to give NCIS sort of a pass, because it doesn't pretend to be technologically accurate and the tech fairy tales are generally peripheral to the plot, but there was no excuse for CSI: Cyber.
(Back in the olden days, we would have called the Kali users of which you speak "script kiddies.")
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing
Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute
content, let us know.