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Old 11-15-2015, 03:27 PM   #1
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The First Question to Ask After Any Terror Attack: Was It a False Flag?


A person exposed to the inner workings of any government branch or agency soon learns that honesty, integrity, honor, and common sense are banned by the powers that be!! Some LQ readers might like this:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/...alse-flag.html
 
Old 11-15-2015, 03:55 PM   #2
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I always wonder the same after an event like this. It's hard to know; maybe it is, maybe it isn't. (History is full of false flag attacks though).

In any case, I have no doubt that the expansion of ISIS in the ME is a direct consequence of the US government involvement (and that of their allies from the EU) in the area. They got involved there with the excuse of training and arming so called "rebel groups" (or "moderate opposition" in Syria, as they also like to call them) so they could impose their political agenda in the region and overthrow Al Assad, and mysteriously ISIS expanded in the region overnight. So either a false flag attack or not, the direct responsibility of the attacks in Paris and the hundreds of thousands of deaths in the ME falls on the ones giving weapons to these terrorist groups (and buying cheap oil from them, of course!).

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Old 11-15-2015, 04:48 PM   #3
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9/11 was also considered a controversial false flag by the Bush administration. I personally think the attack on the twin towers was from the terrorist. However, the attack on the pentagon seems suspicious to me. The surveillance camera never showed an airplane flying into the pentagon or the wreaking of an airplane in the destruction.

Who really knows for sure about the Paris incident. One thing for sure, it was done by evil people.
 
Old 11-15-2015, 10:10 PM   #4
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Possibly a false flag, but not necessarily. By bombing, invading, imposing economic embargoes upon and interfering in the internal politics of other countries, the countries in NATO have made plenty of enemies. Of course if someone responds to the deaths caused in their countries by NATO by killing a few people in Europe or North America, those people are evil. Same old story.

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Old 11-15-2015, 10:11 PM   #5
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Honestly from the information so far, the targets of the attacks have no political significance. On the news they call them 'terror' attacks, because they don't seem to have a political purpose ATM. Nobody has even identified the people responsible, but all the news channels make non-stop references to IS as if they already know, and even worse some are suggesting they posed as refugees. I guess they just want Europeans to hate the refugees as if they are terrorists who have invaded them, that seems to be the message being sent by the news channels.

Of course I always wonder if it is a false flag, sleeper agents maybe, but I don't really care anymore. There's really nothing you can do to stop them in this case. Another purpose is probably to pass draconian laws to take away people's freedoms, in fact I'm betting on it.

My condolences to the French people. I had a bad Friday the 13th, but it looks like they had a much worse one.
 
Old 11-15-2015, 10:16 PM   #6
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I guess they just want Europeans to hate the refugees as if they are terrorists who have invaded them, that seems to be the message being sent by the news channels.
Big surprise, isn't it?
 
Old 11-15-2015, 11:21 PM   #7
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Please.

"False Flag" theories invariably turn out to be products of the fever swamps. It is up to the persons who promote them to prove them, not to others to disprove them. And not one of them, not a single one, has been proved.

And some of them are outrageously cruel. Telling the parents of the children who died at Sandy Hook that Sandy Hook was somehow a "false flag" is unbelievably sadistic.

If one wishes to live in an Alex Jones universe, that's one's choice, but remember that it's paranoid fiction of the highest order. Don't kid yourself that it is in any way connected with reality.

(I hesitated to post to this thread, but I had had all I could stands I could stands no more.)

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Old 11-16-2015, 12:13 AM   #8
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I would not compare a single person killing a few people out of a twisted sense of justice, whether it be a person killing school children in The United States or in China*, with an organised attack by people a) fighting back against the countries that bomb them or b) by governments killing their own people to create a war.** The two have very different motivations and causes.

* Yes, such things happen outside North America and Europe.
** It does happen, but not as often as some would like us to believe.
 
Old 11-16-2015, 12:43 AM   #9
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It always bothers me that so many innocent people have to suffer the consequences of the actions of others; be they twisted killers or governments!! Humanity seems to be self destructing before our eyes!!
 
Old 11-16-2015, 01:47 AM   #10
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The difference is when a lunatic kills a bunch of people at his/her workplace or in a shopping centre, people rightly blame the lunatic; but when people from some place "over there" kill a bunch people in retaliation, people do not blame their government for creating enemies by bombing that place over there. That is not to say the killing is good, but the cause is ignored. For example; during their occupation of Iraq, Americans were deeply concerned when American deaths reached a thousand. It was a tragedy that so many people were dying for the empire. However, almost no one cared that during the same time 150,000 Iraqis had died. That is the way Europeans and North Americans have been conditioned to think. Only their deaths matter. The recent incident in Paris will not be the last as long as NATO continues the course it has been on since the end of the Cold War. Sadly, people must be prepared for more.

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Old 11-16-2015, 09:07 AM   #11
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The stupidity, heartlessness and opportunism of the conspiracy theorists who wrote that is astounding.

And no, "is it a false flag" is not the "first" question to ask after "any" terror attack. The time for that question is after the investigations have been done and you actually have evidence and not just what you personally think might be a "motive".

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Old 11-16-2015, 11:05 AM   #12
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What is it with the USA and conspiracy theories? Is there something in the water?

Daesh exists. It carries out terrorist attacks. It admits to carrying out terrorist attacks attacks. The same applies to Al-Qaeda and Boko Haram. Anyone who seriously believe all or any of their attacks are engineered by the US or some other government is, as we say over here, several sandwiches short of a picnic.

Nor can you say it's a matter of their retaliating against us. These people are radical Islamists. They believe (watch their videos) that it's their religious duty to wage war on non-believers in order to force them to convert. It's not some political grievance that we can negotiate with them about.

Of course, if we hadn't invaded Iraq they'd never have been able to obtain territory, and if we weren't trying to overthrow President Asad Syria would be putting up a stronger fight against them. The real question is not whether the US is engaging in "false flag" operations, but why it's foreign policy is dictated by Saudi Arabia and Israel.
 
Old 11-16-2015, 12:30 PM   #13
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Aha, DavidMcCann " The real question is not whether the United States is engaging in "false flag" operations, but why it's foreign policy is dictated by Saudi Arabia and Israel." That " reality " sir, is not to be discussed, or even thought about by the public!!
 
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Aha, DavidMcCann " The real question is not whether the United States is engaging in "false flag" operations, but why it's foreign policy is dictated by Saudi Arabia and Israel." That " reality " sir, is not to be discussed, or even thought about by the public!!
If that's what you wanted to talk about, you should have led with that.
 
Old 11-16-2015, 02:13 PM   #15
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The stupidity, heartlessness and opportunism of the conspiracy theorists who wrote that is astounding.

And no, "is it a false flag" is not the "first" question to ask after "any" terror attack. The time for that question is after the investigations have been done and you actually have evidence and not just what you personally think might be a "motive".
Not sure if you were referring to me, but just in case, I didn't say it was a false flag, though it wouldn't surprise me in the least, and it certainly is one possibility to consider any time events like these occur.

I also stand by my previous statement regarding the US government and its allies in the ME supporting these terrorists. So even if it was not a false flag, the governments that train and arm these groups are just as responsible of their actions as they are.

And talking about conspiracy theories, a few days ago I read an article about a recent interview to Tony Blair where he admitted that the excuse for getting involved in Iraq (the alleged weapons of mass destruction) was a lie and that it was a mistake to get involved there. Now, that's what I call a conspiracy theory; one that cost about 1.500.000 lives and the destruction of a country. So, no, I don't trust anything the US government and its allies say, and I always try to analyze what's really going on behind the scenes.

Something else: I have close family and friends living in France, and I'm sad for last Friday's attacks, as I'm sad for all the innocent people being killed in the ME due to this war.
 
  


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