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Old 03-25-2021, 05:37 PM   #9601
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I've stated many times my view is, if we use lies to try to make the kids good we get what we got.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 05:40 PM   #9602
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Lies or stories wasn\isn't the best term for me to use fear is maybe?
 
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Almost all literature is based on our imagination. If people think ancient Greek mythology tells many interesting things. Say Midas story.

Edit: I think it is about respect. How to teach children to respect others - despite feelings, likes and so on. How to judge people - very difficult.

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Old 03-25-2021, 06:21 PM   #9604
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I'm off to work, have a good one.
 
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To tell something about one needs representative group. We need thousands of thousands dinosaurs skeletons to claim something reasonable
We do have thousands of dinosaur fossils.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...sil-Earth.html

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The truth is these dinosaurs were puppets of ancient civilization
Are you serious when you say "the truth", or do you mean this as just a possible explanation that could match the same evidence?
 
Old 03-25-2021, 11:08 PM   #9606
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Brake time.

I tend to be counterproductive when i feel the conversation will only ever (until we're long-gone) be opinions.

Whether you believe them or not, fairy tales, have yet to make good people.

Come on warp drive and even then we only unite.
 
Old 03-26-2021, 02:47 AM   #9607
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Do you want us to start to search the Truth? 20 000 miles under the Sea with captain Nemo?
 
Old 03-26-2021, 02:54 AM   #9608
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We know the truth: wash our hands, eat our veggies and opt for adoption till the world needs more kids.

Add: one more brake after this... hug.

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Kids turn the World around.
 
Old 03-26-2021, 05:12 AM   #9610
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There is saying that there is no Universe - it is just another Truman show - one big screen around Earth with all these pictures of stars. But screen is very far away - so no one can touch it. So there is Universe or not?
It was less a little more than 60 years ago that everyone on Earth thought The Universe was only the Milky Way. It took Edwin Hubble and the Hale Telescope to discover the Milky Way is just a galaxy among many. It took a few decades to realize "many" was millions, then billions, then trillions.

So, since we have sent spacecraft way past Pluto and not hit any "screen" even if the "screen is much further out, we could still say our Solar System is The Universe. However since we can view and measure that as far as we can see, encompassing many trillions of parsecs, Physics is the same everywhere except in singularities. So the odds are vastly in favor of other galaxies being real and not some projection.

Taking it a step further, ESA measured gamma rays from a Gamma Ray Burst Quasar that exploded billions of light years away and billions of years in the past and it was possible to measure that 1) The Universe out that far is not a hologram, or any other sort of projection, and 2) in phase arrival time shows that if Spacetime is made of discrete particles they are many orders of magnitude smaller than Planck Scale. You can read about it as part of ESA's Integral Program begun in 2002. Here is a starting point https://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/i.../integral.html

So, yes, I have complete confidence that The Universe exists with Universe defined as a structure of SpaceTime extending for trillions of light years at minimum, expanding rapidly and beginning roughly 13.7 Billion years ago.

Note: This doesn't disprove nor attempt to disprove the common notion that "God created it". By definition that God would have to be outside the Universe, existing before it so impossible to sense, let alone measure. Since the notion of God has been around for far longer than 2000 years, when people believed in all manner of spirits and hobgoblins, it certainly would be a hoot if it turned out they'd guessed right, since they had no hard evidence nor tools to gather any.

EDIT - Oops! I read your thought on Evolution and now realize all of the above is likely a waste of words. No offense meant, but your education in Science is sorely lacking.

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Kids turn the World around.
Seeds spread till the plant is dead. The sun is our 🌳ree.
 
Old 03-26-2021, 05:39 AM   #9612
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Even it the sun is somes god.

Reminder: unimaginable track's of time.

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It took Edwin Hubble and the Hale Telescope to discover the Milky Way is just a galaxy among many.
It is just eye catching light coming from that screen. Like our own eyes are catching images from TV. Gamma rays - no matter just light from screen. Telescope, radio-telescopes - they are eyes only. We only see something. Does it really exist?

Edit: Astronomy is just science about pictures.

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Even it the sun is somes god.
Yeah, I think the planets configuration should encoded into someones birthday file. If someone really believe in astrology - it can find this useful to determine own person fate.

Edit: If our home is all the Universe how the Sun can be deity? Or Earth? This would mean there are so many deities as stars and planets in the Universe.

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It is just eye catching light coming from that screen. Like our own eyes are catching images from TV. Gamma rays - no matter just light from screen. Telescope, radio-telescopes - they are eyes only. We only see something. Does it really exist?

Edit: Astronomy is just science about pictures.
Yes but we have sent vehicles to some of those places. It's no less real than your nearest city or a tree outside your home. IMHO trying o view it as "just light" is simply choosing to ignore E=MC^2. Everything, even matter, is energy. That's what reality is. Ask yourself if you are real. What's outside you is the same stuff. You are a part of it all as we all are. Live Long and Prosper Igadoter.
 
  


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