The Faith & Religion mega Thread

If people weren't stupid there'd be no need for me or anyone to be an a-hole... but, we're here now.

Not biased, not predisposed... having 'the knowledge'... That is all very difficult stuff.

It is simply not possible to think objectively. That is above the abilities of a single person.

We build up on culture, upbringing, even our social group, experiences

I think it is outright insane and dangerous that you use these words in this context, unbiased, knowledge, not predisposed. Sure we need to be humble, realistic that is! Of course we can not expect only to be humble always only from the opponents in discussion, that is not the meaning of humble, hehe.

@jamison So we must rely on opinions. No reason to send someone to hell for it. You are one zealot really also.

We have a saying in german: 'someone thinks he has eaten wisdom with spoons'. That is impossible, unfortunately.
Another saying I heard the other day: 'Wisdom is the only gift that god has given without shortage. Everyone thinks he has enough of it.'

This thread is madness anyway.

We don't need opinions is fact (trees do not without humans...) and, from the "Tags" alone yes it is.

IMH(<—this-time () ironically(-here-now-is-all-we-get)—>)O if blind-faith (and there is no other kind) is used to teach children we get this world!

Proper education has created a spaghetti monster for good reason!

Originally Posted by jamison20000e We don't need opinions is fact (trees do not without humans...) and, from the &quot;Tags&quot; alone yes it is. IMH(<—this-time () ironically(-here-now-is-all-we-get)—>)O if blind-faith (and there is no other kind) is used to teach children we get this world! Proper education has created a spaghetti monster for good reason!

See you state 'we' don't need religion. To teach children or ourselves or whatever you will.

In my opinion you are nothing more than Napoleon or at best a Snowball in Animal Farm. They propagate they doubt the existing system. But their hidden agenda is power just the same. they end up telling everybody what they should think and do in the same way as the old establishment. You tell you will make it better. And I answer to that: You are likewise incompetent as what you criticise. I do not trust you in the slightest to perform only as good as the ruling system where religion or christianity is one large cultural influence among othrs.

And for the blind faith. You are maybe not full of faith (although that is very worthy of discussion) but to me you are blind the same.

"Unimaginable tracks of time..."(—Darwin) if "we" could go back in time with today's knowledge they'd kill us for being witches or warlocks! My blindness comes from rage (NEVER PHYSICAL AGGRESSION I (would rather die than kill)) at stupidity, today is today nothing more. (Don't but) evolution could happen faster if all owners of weapons pointed them inward but of course that would be a "sin" unlike killing children for "god" and f-ing flags!

Of course we would be burnt alive on sight, if we brought, a laptop and showed someone only the Linux boot sequence, let alone a music video.

I think your insight rather being killed than to kill has something parallel to some bible contents And I see that point

What are you talking about with speeding up evolution? Who cares? That is a frame of 1.000 of years. It's ridiculous to interfere with that. That will lead to Eugenics, and even that will be slow and we are unable to manipulate our genom, because what we know amounts to roundabout 0.000. Hoping on evolution for several human lifespan is the purest nonsense imho. You would have to do heavy selection. Who would decide? That concept is not to trust.

Weapons, especially above handguns, are indeed an evil. You could execute or annihilate any individual or organization that builds weapons. That would in a way be sound. But you still need weapons to do that.

I don't think at all that 'evil' will get out of the world by evolution. That thesis seems hugly fallacious to me. You need to back up such an assumption with scientific evidence, otherwise this is the blindest faith I'd have ever seen

On the contrary. Evil grows with evolution. The animals are not so wicked as humans, they kill to eat, seldomly for playing or fun, like a house fed cat kills a mouse. Evil in man has huge effects. If he becomes yet more powerful or able by evolution, I would expect the effects of evil to grow until inevitable global destruction. Although we have reached that state already of course, maybe next step is he will be able to destruct our whole solar system or galaxy.

And what in the world are you ranting on about religious people killing or sacrificing children? I have not witnessed any such happenings in Europe. On the contrary the religious people, and here especially the more hardcore variants like catholic and evangelical are the ones effectively campaigning to protect unborn children from killing by abortion.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e If people weren't stupid there'd be no need for me or anyone to be an a-hole... but, we're here now.

Oh, the irony...

Philosophy is a branch of science...

And, mythology is well you "know" that one.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e If people weren't stupid there'd be no need for me or anyone to be an a-hole... but, we're here now.

I recognize and appreciate your efforts to help mankind by trying hard to force yourself to be more like an a-hole in this thread.

We all know also the a-hole is an important organ that provides invaluable achievments.

Keep up the good work!

Like opinions but not facts.

Forgot different places so:

Just in case you don't have the same saying there (sure you do) "opinions are like buttholes everyone has one." Whereas facts make babies and poo's...

Oh and by the way no problem,
comes easily to me.
https://youtu.be/fzrvC-vz3Z4

The electricity spent for this thread. Gone forever...

Too bad is not religions, yet. The sun will outlast life on earth but will humanity?