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Enorbet: the second quote in your post is a quote of a "" they are both quotes but not the same... just like my wrong versus you're wrong, that's not too thick to understand is it?The reason we're learning and doing is to pass it on; so, if you want morons who can't live for themselves, teach people that way and have no clue how precious life is cuz they think they're going to get a golden poop in the end...
OK now I get it. It was from attempting to get through to BW-userX. Yeah, that's a Pyrrhic Victory at best, more like a lost cause. He is totally convinced and utterly self-contained and will always stay as he is and never grow. It's against his creed, I think. He can't even imagine why a moral code comes with the status of being alive, no matter how long or short it lasts. Seems like "Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" to me.
the JWs (Jehovah's Witnesses) are a loony & oppressive cult, it is basically a mental prison for the followers, all religions are loony & oppressive cults its just that some are loonier & more oppressive than others
When the "loony and oppressive cult types" show up at my door I just excuse myself saying, "Sorry. I'm not superstitious." and close the door. When LDS kids show up they are so unoppressive and decent, I generally will spend a few minutes with them. It usually goes something like this....
Mormons: You believe in God, don't you?
Me: No, actually I don't.
Mormons: So what do you think happens after you die?
Me: In all likelihood... nothing I will be aware of.
Mormons" Oh Gosh! That sounds dark and depressing!
Me: Really? All THIS isn't enough for you? That hardly seems humble and appreciative of this gift you assume God gave you. I'm just grateful to be alive even for a few moments and breathe the air, feel the grass under my feet and taste cold, clear water, and wonder at the real natural miracle I behold. Not so for you?
Mormons: ...............ummm, well... if you ever change your mind and feel like you need... umm.. something, you can visit our website or... well, good day sir.
Me: Good day indeed. You have my best wishes for you and your loved ones.
I'd guess on average most atheist types are trying to fool either themselves or us, that a higher being all encompassing could not have any conceivable power to create and destroy, or to just allow what beings He created to exercise its own freewill as He does.
I find it puzzling when someone tries to pull of that they are smarter then someone else, yet they still cannot differentiate between much of anything, instead they just lump everything into one pile and call it all the same thing.
They didn't tell who they were in the beginning but asked to agree or disagree with certain passages they read from their bible. I was just woken up and my mind was dull and confused so i kind of played along. The passages they read seemed innocent and made sense. Basically it said that god will be on your side if you do good deeds or something like that. When I finished telling about my view of the whole thing they revealed they were JW and gave my some leaflets and a phone number and wanted me to visit their website. At that point i realized i'm dealing with some nuts and I politely distanced myself from the whole thing and made it clear i'm not really interested and they went away.
Then I looked up JW on wikipedia and was totally disgusted.
I find it puzzling when someone tries to pull of that they are smarter then someone else, yet they still cannot differentiate between much of anything, instead they just lump everything into one pile and call it ...
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... just allow what beings He created to exercise its own freewill as He does.
We're all idiots at times, just some of us can accept it‽
If something is unprovable thus why there's so many spins off and variations like religious agendas if you claim to be "smart" then: 'I won't know' would be the answer... but if anyone dies first here just give us a shout out!
When the "loony and oppressive cult types" show up at my door I just excuse myself saying, "Sorry. I'm not superstitious." and close the door. When LDS kids show up they are so unoppressive and decent, I generally will spend a few minutes with them. It usually goes something like this....
Mormons: You believe in God, don't you?
Me: No, actually I don't.
Mormons: So what do you think happens after you die?
Me: In all likelihood... nothing I will be aware of.
Mormons" Oh Gosh! That sounds dark and depressing!
Me: Really? All THIS isn't enough for you? That hardly seems humble and appreciative of this gift you assume God gave you. I'm just grateful to be alive even for a few moments and breathe the air, feel the grass under my feet and taste cold, clear water, and wonder at the real natural miracle I behold. Not so for you?
Mormons: ...............ummm, well... if you ever change your mind and feel like you need... umm.. something, you can visit our website or... well, good day sir.
Me: Good day indeed. You have my best wishes for you and your loved ones.
How many religious folks do you think would die of heart attacks if a ghost popped in front of them, If Heaven or Hell were real they probably spend the first couple hours screaming and freaking out... thank sanity we don't live forever!
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