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01-21-2004, 11:57 AM
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Location: Bandung, Indonesia
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teaching active directory w/o teaching network concept (possible???)
Hi, there
I'm an operating system lab asistant and told to held a 3 hours class introducing linux servers and active directory concept, but without teaching about networking concept.
I'm concentrating in Linux and i'm not a window$ server user and very newbie to the active directory concept and implementation. How do i held such class (active directory w/o networking concept) ?
Is it possible ??
Thanks
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01-21-2004, 01:29 PM
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Location: Lisbon Falls, Maine
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I think it's very possible. The ONLY issue you may run into is dealing with permissions and schema, but if all your covering is AD basics, then it is very possible to do it without getting into network topology and design. Some parts of AD will be hard to explain to a network illiterate audience, like sites, but it's still possible. Had to do something similar at my work a while back. We had 3 people come on board with no networking experience through a job placement agency (all of them were found to be 'computer litterate', but that might have been an overstatement). I was supposed to teach them how to administer several OU's under AD that they were going to be responsible for. I don't think I ever had to discuss topology, or TCP/IP, or even subnets, but what we covered was pretty basic (adding machines/users, deleting acounts, changing permissions....etc...)
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01-21-2004, 02:51 PM
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You can talk 3 hours just about user management. Hell, make them suffer, teach them scripting for user support.
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01-21-2004, 06:52 PM
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Domain and servers. Not networking subjects?
Thank you for the answers.
Slightcrazed :
" I was supposed to teach them how to administer several OU's under AD that they were going to be responsible for. I don't think I ever had to discuss topology, or TCP/IP, or even subnets, but what we covered was pretty basic (adding machines/users, deleting acounts, changing permissions....etc...)"
How long did you take to teach them so they can basicaly understand the concept of active directory and ready to explore more about it? My lab is lack of resources to implement the AD due to inconfigureable W2K (not permited). They are suppose to learn more and implement it at their own computer at home (?).
I only have 3 hours and I have to teach them linux servers too (without networking concept too?). Any hints/clues what should i start with/ what come after another?
Do you think if i teach them about domain and servers i won't pass the "no networking thing" boundary? I get confused with the term "no networking concept".
Thanks !
PS : how do i in this forum quote other person saying and add smile icons ??
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01-21-2004, 07:12 PM
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I don't think you have to talk about forest's and domains and trees and such, not if they are going to be learning it from the OU level down. I would start out teaching them objects (users/machines) and the different aspects that are stored in AD about each, and then expand from there to include groups, then OU's and then nested groups. Face it, you've only got 3 hours, so you're going to have to limit them to ONLY what they need to know, or enough to whet their appetite. You don't need to teach them how to DESIGN an AD forest, so start small, and K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid).
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