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Old 10-12-2017, 04:45 AM   #1
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System 76 is moving away from ubuntu by the end of this year


It looks like system 76 is moving away from ubuntu by the end of this year. All computers will have pop.


https://system76.com/pop

Not Sure why they are doing it but they are.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 07:19 AM   #2
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http://blog.system76.com/post/165833...s-making-popos
has some explanation. Seems to be about Unity being discontinued.

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We were shocked. Development of the product we’ve shipped since 2011 would cease. Unity was no more.

[...]Like everyone, I wanted Ubuntu desktop to stand on its own economically. It’s only a matter of time before a company must align its investments with its paying customers, and that wasn’t the desktop for Canonical. But it is for System76.

[...]I started thinking that Canonical can focus on the enterprise—where they excel—and we’ll focus on the desktop where we excel.

I distro surfed when Canonical announced the end of Unity. Ubuntu GNOME received the most attention from the team. We figured that it’s essentially the future of Ubuntu and we better get to know our new product. GNOME stood out. There was an abundance of technologies and thoughtful workflow, and with the extensions framework we saw the potential to shape the desktop to our customers’ needs. We liked GNOME.

We adapted existing themes, icons, and fonts to the System76 brand. Then boot branding. Then distro settings and default apps. Then it wasn’t Ubuntu desktop anymore.

[...]How would it differ from existing distros?

The answers started coming pretty easily. Jettison solitaire, photo managers and the like from the default install. Center our approach on user testing and careful analysis to identify pain points and determine features. Focus on productivity and the developer experience. Pop!_OS was born.
 
Old 10-13-2017, 09:04 PM   #3
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http://blog.system76.com/post/165833...s-making-popos
has some explanation. Seems to be about Unity being discontinued.

That makes no sense. It like Windows not making taskbar any more or Apple not making dock any more.

If they don't make unity any more what will happen.

Why does system 76 have to make its own os? Why not pick other Linux distro like mint or fedora or some thing else.

If unity only going be around for other year or two what going to happen....

Unity is most popular second to mint out there people use.
 
Old 10-14-2017, 05:51 AM   #4
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Unity is most popular second to mint out there people use.
you are forgetting that canonical ltd (aka ubuntu) discontinued unity development, not system76.
 
Old 10-16-2017, 11:04 AM   #5
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you are forgetting that canonical ltd (aka ubuntu) discontinued unity development, not system76.
Ubuntu will be moving to gnome 3 starting next year.

I don't know why system76 don't just put gnome or mint on it than say pop.

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Old 10-16-2017, 11:05 AM   #6
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you are forgetting that canonical ltd (aka ubuntu) discontinued unity development, not system76.
Also not sure why he did that or if some one else will pick up unity.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 04:59 AM   #7
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Why restrict potential customers to one 'brand' of Linux - not all users are the same, some like to have everything installed, whilst others like to have the minimum necessary for the way they work - if I bought one of their computers, the last distro I'd have on it would be Ubuntu! Luckily, I can install my favourite distro on all my old computers without any fuss.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 08:18 AM   #8
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I'm not sorry to see Unity go. It was always so slow. Of course Gnome doesn't seem like it is much better. They might be nice for touch screen but....
 
Old 10-17-2017, 09:24 AM   #9
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FWIW, Fedora runs great on my System76 desktop.

I think they should add a dropdown menu and give the customer a choice of several distros (or blank hard drive for users who want to install their own).

But I totally get the logic behind "Pop" from a marketing/branding point of view. They are trying to push the company in a more Apple-like direction, where the hardware and software are bundled together.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 03:26 PM   #10
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I'm not sorry to see Unity go. It was always so slow. Of course Gnome doesn't seem like it is much better. They might be nice for touch screen but....
Some people like it and some people hate it.

But it like building house why not make your house better than start over that take more time to get to where you at.

Don't reinvent the wheel make your product better every year. Put time and energy in that than reinventing the wheel.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 03:27 PM   #11
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FWIW, Fedora runs great on my System76 desktop.

I think they should add a dropdown menu and give the customer a choice of several distros (or blank hard drive for users who want to install their own).

But I totally get the logic behind "Pop" from a marketing/branding point of view. They are trying to push the company in a more Apple-like direction, where the hardware and software are bundled together.




That is sad move....

We don't need other Apple or Microsoft.
 
Old 10-19-2017, 01:36 PM   #12
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Ubuntu will be moving to gnome 3 starting next year.

I don't know why system76 don't just put gnome or mint on it than say pop.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes

RIP Unity!

I actually liked Unity and hoped that it would get better. New ideas are important. But it seemed to hit a point where progress lulled and I either had to use various tools to tweak it to my liking or switch to something I could build a work-flow around.

In general, I feel like Xerox PARC invented or stumbled on most of the WIMP as we know it today and progress away from that model continues to be treacherous. Luckily, we've got a few credible desktops with the classic model.
 
  


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