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Old 06-15-2020, 12:13 PM   #1
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Super X-Windows


All,

The IISC published the legal standard for Linux in 2012 and made it law in Apr 2014. Super Windows is part of that requirement.

I personally have always used the "super windows" so I can open different windows for what I am doing.

Example
I open FireFox by topic. My first FF window always holds my default apps of:
1.} Gmail (1-10 of my default email accounts),
2.) CUPS to manage printing,
3.) PHPmyAdmin,
4.) WebMin to manage all the remote servers I'm contracted for.
Then I additionally open other FF window sessions for:
1.) Dev and testing via localhost,
2.) Sessions for things I am purchasing,
3.) Scriptures and scripture research for my books I'm writing,
4.) Healthcare and home remedies I'm researching,
etc. etc.

Then I am a developer so have 10-50 GEdit sessions open,
I'm an author so have 4-15 sessions of LO Write open of the books I'm writing,
I run 50 blogs so have all those open, in a separate window,
I'm constantly working with data and tracking, so have 2-25 Excel sheet open,
I'm an Administrator so always have 3+ terminal/konsole session open at once,
Etc, Etc.

I personally cannot operate without the "super Windows",

I know that over 90% of the world does not know Linux is now legally bound to a standard. It shows in the substandard release of Linux being released. I'll publish the "Baseline Linux Requirements" doc someplace so you can see it.

So if you know where the "Super X-Windows" add-ons are so I can get back to "normal" for me, please contribute.

Cheers!

TBotNik

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Old 06-15-2020, 12:30 PM   #2
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Guessing you mean the "meta key" that has a windows logo on it? Funny, I never use this key and all my bindings are via "alt". Personal preference though. I am just used to using "alt+something".
 
Old 06-15-2020, 03:55 PM   #3
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All,

The IISC published the legal standard for Linux in 2012 and made it law in Apr 2014. Super Windows is part of that requirement.

I personally have always used the "super windows" so I can open different windows for what I am doing.

Example
I open FireFox by topic. My first FF window always holds my default apps of:
1.} Gmail (1-10 of my default email accounts),
2.) CUPS to manage printing,
3.) PHPmyAdmin,
4.) WebMin to manage all the remote servers I'm contracted for.
Then I additionally open other FF window sessions for:
1.) Dev and testing via localhost,
2.) Sessions for things I am purchasing,
3.) Scriptures and scripture research for my books I'm writing,
4.) Healthcare and home remedies I'm researching,
etc. etc.

Then I am a developer so have 10-50 GEdit sessions open,
I'm an author so have 4-15 sessions of LO Write open of the books I'm writing,
I run 50 blogs so have all those open, in a separate window,
I'm constantly working with data and tracking, so have 2-25 Excel sheet open,
I'm an Administrator so always have 3+ terminal/konsole session open at once,
Etc, Etc.

I personally cannot operate without the "super Windows",

I know that over 90% of the world does not know Linux is now legally bound to a standard. It shows in the substandard release of Linux being released. I'll publish the "Baseline Linux Requirements" doc someplace so you can see it.

So if you know where the "Super X-Windows" add-ons are so I can get back to "normal" for me, please contribute.

Cheers!

TBotNik
Wow.
Let's stick to the facts: where is this document that prooves that "Linux is now legally bound to a standard".
In any case I don't see how the Linux kernel has anything to do with GUI applications.
 
Old 06-15-2020, 08:34 PM   #4
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I've never heard of either super windows or super x windows.
 
Old 06-15-2020, 09:37 PM   #5
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^ This.

Also, who are the IISC, and how/why do they have the power to legally bind anyone to anything?
 
Old 06-22-2020, 11:27 AM   #6
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Guessing you mean the "meta key" that has a windows logo on it? Funny, I never use this key and all my bindings are via "alt". Personal preference though. I am just used to using "alt+something".
sevendogsbsd,

Can't find enough on the Windows Meta Key to know if that is the answer! Right now 18.04 has me totally handicapped, as "Super Windows" is the only way I roll.

Besides it was a legal reqirument from 2014 and beyond that all Linux distros not only have "Super Windows" but also have "Quadrant" which provides/divides the desktops with the 4 quadrants, allowing assignment in the launcher to the quadrant. Quadrant, contains the 4 main desktop quadrant and 8 floating windows, so assignment in launcher would be:
  1. quad=UL # Upper Left quadrant
  2. quad=UR # Upper Right quadrant
  3. quad=LL # Lower Left quadrant
  4. quad=LR # Lower Right quadrant
  5. quad=F1 # Floating Window #1
  6. quad=F2 # Floating Window #2
  7. quad=F3 # Floating Window #3
  8. quad=F4 # Floating Window #4
  9. quad=F5 # Floating Window #5
  10. quad=F6 # Floating Window #6
  11. quad=F7 # Floating Window #7
  12. quad=F8 # Floating Window #8

The fact that all Linux Distros are ignoring the legal requirement, neams all are illegal OS versions/distros. Got to figure out how to
get them all in compliance!

Would not be having this issue if all distro were legal!

Cheers!

TBNK

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Old 06-22-2020, 11:31 AM   #7
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Wow.
Let's stick to the facts: where is this document that prooves that "Linux is now legally bound to a standard".
In any case I don't see how the Linux kernel has anything to do with GUI applications.
ondoho,

The IISC has been in existence since 1994 and established it's authority as the legality over all IT and data in 2002. This had to be done so in establishing security the testing of all Linux distros can be uniformly tested for security compliance.

So what rock have you been hiding under? Are you an IISC member? DB says No!

TBNK

PS:
Ubuntu knows this as they added the "Super Windows" to 14.04 LTS, but then somehow abandoned it in later versions. They however never provided "Quadrant"!

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Old 06-22-2020, 11:35 AM   #8
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Linux is not legally bound to anything. It has to follow whatever licensing it has but that's it. Standards are not "legal". Linux is not a "illegal OS". No one is hiding under a rock, get your facts straight.
 
Old 06-22-2020, 11:59 AM   #9
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By IISC are you referring to the following? If not please elaborate.

https://www.isc.org/
 
Old 06-22-2020, 12:22 PM   #10
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How do I use all this?
  1. UL: Contains file mgmt (Dolphin for me),
  2. LL: Contains editors (Gedit for me),
  3. UR: Contains terminal/konsole,
  4. LR: KFind/File Search,
  5. F1: Contains browser (Firefox for me),
  6. F2: Contains LO Write,
  7. F3: Contains LO Calc,
  8. F4: Contains NetBeans,
  9. F5: Contains Chat (Quassel for me).

Then I always know where things are and not guessing, like you always are without these required apps.

Cheers!

TBNK

PS:
Since just having installed Kubuntu 18.04 still looking for the app packages to get this all installed. Also over 50 of the required "core" apps are missing!
 
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Not sure exactly what you are trying to explain and but I only can only guess that what features you posted depends on the desktop.

At first guess what I assume you were posting is workspaces i.e. virtual desktops or just splitting the screen and using a short key to switch between your open windows. All that on one desktop would be almost impossible for me to use. I just installed Kubuntu 20.04 as a VM not to long ago but it appears to default to one desktop. The settings allow you to create additional virtual desktops and in a grid as you posted.

https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/appli...ntals/kbd.html

https://www.ghacks.net/2010/08/28/kd...window-tiling/
 
Old 06-23-2020, 01:31 AM   #12
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I still don't understand what problem you are refering to.
Assigning hotkeys to window manager actions? Depends on the desktop environment.
Apparently you changed to something KDE-based now, but since "over 50 of the required core apps are missing", that's not going to last either I guess.

About your "legal requirement" though:
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The IISC has been in existence since 1994 and established it's authority as the legality over all IT and data in 2002. This had to be done so in establishing security the testing of all Linux distros can be uniformly tested for security compliance.

So what rock have you been hiding under? Are you an IISC member? DB says No!
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Originally Posted by TBotNik View Post
Besides it was a legal reqirument from 2014 and beyond that all Linux distros not only have "Super Windows" but also have "Quadrant"
(...)
The fact that all Linux Distros are ignoring the legal requirement, neams all are illegal OS versions/distros. Got to figure out how to
get them all in compliance!
Would not be having this issue if all distro were legal!
I'm stilling waiting for you to show us any proof of that.
Until then I call shenanigans.
 
Old 06-23-2020, 02:48 AM   #13
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The IISC has been in existence since 1994 and established it's authority as the legality over all IT and data in 2002.
How and where?

I hereby establish my own authority as the "legality" over all bulltish on the internet.
 
Old 06-28-2020, 08:59 PM   #14
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Linux is not legally bound to anything. It has to follow whatever licensing it has but that's it. Standards are not "legal". Linux is not a "illegal OS". No one is hiding under a rock, get your facts straight.
You are wrong, Oh uniformed! All OS makers have been legally bound, since April 2014 to follow the published standards, for the security of it's users and uniformity of testing this security!

You have to be a member of the IISC to get a copy of the laws, as for secuirty sake, no non-member ever sees their publications or hacking would multiply 10-20 fold.

I've been a member since 1994!

Cheers!

TBNK
 
Old 06-28-2020, 09:10 PM   #15
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I still don't understand what problem you are refering to.
Assigning hotkeys to window manager actions? Depends on the desktop environment.
Apparently you changed to something KDE-based now, but since "over 50 of the required core apps are missing", that's not going to last either I guess.

About your "legal requirement" though:

I'm stilling waiting for you to show us any proof of that.
Until then I call shenanigans.
ondoho,

Nothing to do at all with "KEYS"! Super Windows contain other windows!

EX:
You normally have the browser open 6-20 times but currently you can not cascade or organize these window sessions. With "Super Windows" all the browser windows will be in one super-window and you see each browser window as a tab in the "super window"! Therefore rather than searching your screen to find the right browser session, you just click the "super window" and seeing the sessions in the "super tabs" you go right to the window you want. Understand the window you want will probably contain 6-50 tabs, where you were researching a topic, technology, code, etc.

The old Unbuntu/Kubuntu 14.04 contained this natively, if you have a spare machine and time to investigate. Or you can just boot from the LiveDVD in the trial mode!

Cheers!

TBNK
 
  


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