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Old 08-04-2016, 11:41 PM   #1
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Something to ponder


Is this the future ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N03Uoj6p9QA
 
Old 08-05-2016, 01:53 AM   #2
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Hi Andy...

No, this is. Praise God!

Regards...
 
Old 08-05-2016, 01:57 AM   #3
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If this is the only video on the topic, that you have viewed or feel inclined to view, the answer is: NO... The future is anything else but that.

Do not prospect into the far future to learn important details. See in your immediate context and understand the present. Now that is frightening enough.

* About 15 years from now, industrial agriculture seizes to exist. This is just 1 consequence of 1 of the tiny facts. I would not need more than that.

* But my neighbors prepare to protect against things they have never seen, never heard of other but in the slogans of dumb idiots, do not understand but appear to be less frightening than the fact that 90% of them will die of cancer or that our tap water is not drinkable.

The future is chaos on all levels, and it is not the future of our kids or grand-children. The peasants of the future are already born, but they do not know it. Hence, they do not plant the trees which should protect them. Hence they will starve.

Mankind will disappear at 2 minutes after noon. Skip the future.

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Old 08-05-2016, 02:05 AM   #4
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Hi Andy...

No, this is. Praise God!

Regards...
Chill my friend.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 02:06 AM   #5
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If this is the only video on the topic, that you have viewed or feel inclined to view, the answer is: NO... The future is anything else but that.

Do not prospect into the far future to learn important details. See in your immediate context and understand the present. Now that is frightening enough.

* About 15 years from now, industrial agriculture seizes to exist. This is just 1 consequence of 1 of the tiny facts. I would not need more than that.

* But my neighbors prepare to protect against things they have never seen, never heard of other but in the slogans of dumb idiots, do not understand but appear to be less frightening than the fact that 90% of them will die of cancer or that our tap water is not drinkable.

The future is chaos on all levels, and it is not the future of our kids or grand-children. The peasants of the future are already born, but they do not know it. Hence, they do not plant the trees which should protect them. Hence they will starve.

Mankind will disappear at 2 minutes after noon. Skip the future.
Are you an atheist ?

I ask because it helps me in understanding where you are coming from.

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Old 08-05-2016, 07:31 AM   #6
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I do not need to be an atheist to keep my eyes open.

* The Club of Rome had altered and refined their analysis and since then, did not go wrong.

* We invest already almost as much energy into the production of energy as we get out of it.

* We invest more energy into the production of food than we get out of it and your shale gas era is over.

* We will run out of phosphate in 2030, if it should be extracted at today's rate, which is improbable. Some other peaks are reached before that but most fall into the same range of some 15 years.

* Those who claim they make progress leave behind a sea of blood, where 90% of the victims of war are civilians.

I cannot prove anything on LQ and do not know what to recommend for reading; Any authors that I deem worth reading are either concentrating on 1 topic or are French and writing in French, although you find many summaries from English authors. As regards Internet-resources, they are useful only if you already have some scientific background or, likewise, want to concentrate on 1 single topic, like the “peak all”, sociological phenomena.., historical comparisons and the like.

Maybe try to find information on the “exponential” growth of some values or the exponential decline of others. It will not convey much fact, but prepare you for the analysis of some.

Lloyds have published a good document of recommendations to enterprises, in preparation of the combined cultural, sociological, environmental and energetic crisis. It is available as PDF on the web, somewhere. I kept a printout somewhere and might reproduce it, if it does not take me too long to find.

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Old 08-05-2016, 08:06 AM   #7
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I recommend doing backcountry skiing, while we still live, and while there is still snow.

Because it remains uncertain if we can still ski when we are dead, or when the world ceases to exist.

I think that's more worthwile then worrying about availibility of phosphate.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 08:13 AM   #8
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SK8 ON!

Education should be the future but there's opposition, which should seem stupid until you realize it's us!
 
Old 08-05-2016, 08:19 AM   #9
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Hi Fixit7.

Who is to know. It's a good song though.
 
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Hi Andy...

No, this is. Praise God!

Regards...
Enough with the indoctrination. Stop forcing your beliefs on others.
 
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Education should be the future but there's opposition, which should seem stupid until you realize it's us!
At which point will you close your books and try to take benefit from them?
 
Old 08-05-2016, 08:49 AM   #12
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See, here's the problem. You gotta package all that stuff into something more quiet so I don't alert coworkers to the fact that I'm watching a video, and secondly it's GOTTA be like less than 20 seconds! Albeit kudos to the fact that it didn't start with a Progressive commercial first.

Without having really watched, but seeing the back and forth discussion, seems like yet another "merge it with that mega thread on religion" case.
 
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Talking whatever.rb

Code:
1+1!~2 
puts "Just ask everyone:"
whatever = gets
whatever = gets.chomp
puts whatever
Hoping with state fair going on almost no one will be at the skate park so I can sweat some bullets!

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Old 08-05-2016, 11:15 AM   #14
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Is this the future ?
"Future" is a little optimistic don't you think?
 
Old 08-05-2016, 11:31 AM   #15
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I should like to point out that even comedians notice that as advanced as such futuristic Sci Fi as Star Trek was (all versions) it completely missed the massive effect of computers and the internet. Tricorders? Got an app for that! Even if we choose the earliest Star Trek and post Dial-up Internet the separation in years is less than 40. Do you really imagine anyone has any specific line on what life will be like in 500+ years? More down to Earth change is far more rapid than in the past. My Grandfather grew up in a time where hitching posts (for horses) were still common in even larger cities yet he lived to see Man walk on the Moon in considerably shorter than 100 years. By contrast Thomas Jefferson died in a world that was largely the same as the one he was born into. Can any one of us imagine the stench of any Metropolis 500 years ago? They still believed illness was the work of witches and demons.

The point is that trying to look for the human condition even 50 years from now is pretty well doomed to failure. That said and as for the whole ridiculous End Days Prophesies aside from my generally optimistic viewpoint, practically while I have doubts about the continued existence of homo sapiens 10,000 years from now, I also doubt it's utter destruction in much less than 1000 years (3016). There are over 7,000,000,000 humans on Earth currently so the odds that all will die out, absent the Sun blowing up way ahead of schedule or a major asteroid or comet collision, is highly unlikely. If and when we actually do setup self-sufficient colonies on other worlds, possible in a 1000 year timeframe, those odds become vastly greater.

Readers here might enjoy a scholarly approach o how things are and how they may transpire, based on past changes by reading any or all of Alvin Toffler's books like Future Shock, Third Wave etc or even the incredibly incisive Capital in the Twenty First century by Thomas Piketty. Ad Astra per Aspera !
 
  


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