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Old 03-23-2006, 06:19 AM   #1
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Solution to health care crisis and economy


[begin IT worker rant]

First outsource all U.S. CEO positions to China. They're smarter, don't get million dollar bonuses and can be fired without paying for golden parachutes. Second increase H1B visas to bring in doctors from India who'll work for minimum wage. Problems solved.

Next week I solve the legal crisis in America by using green card lawyers from Mexico as public defenders.

[end IT worker rant]
 
Old 03-23-2006, 07:29 AM   #2
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Congress Considers Massive H-1b Visa Expansion, Gates Tells Congress It’s Microsoft’s Top Priority
March 21, 2006
WashTech News
http://www.washtech.org/news/legisla...D_Content=5043

For some reason there's no mention of the H1B visa program on the news. Even the liberal stations like CNN won't touch it. Guess they gotta come up with the millions to pay Katie Couric somewhere. Hmmm... wonder how much news anchors from India charge.
 
Old 03-23-2006, 08:06 AM   #3
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And don't believe poor Indian workers will suffer. There, like here, it's just a few at the top getting rich:

IT workers should decide on union formation : CITU
Press Trust of India
Kolkata, January 20, 2006
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/1...1,00020020.htm
 
Old 03-23-2006, 08:28 AM   #4
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Hmmm---Crito, you are having quite a conversation with yourself...
 
Old 03-23-2006, 08:34 AM   #5
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All great thinkers talk to themselves, aye? (:
Since were solving the great mysteries of healthcare, the right image is everything (:
 
Old 03-23-2006, 08:48 AM   #6
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Yes, since talking to anyone else would be beneath me and my caste. One must know one's place in life. Oops, that reminds me, I really shouldn't be talking to you. I'll forward this message to you through one of my subordinates instead. Please disregard this direct reply.
 
Old 03-23-2006, 09:50 AM   #7
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Solution to health care crisis and economy ??

probably either this and that ...

if ... the prolification of future generation world leaders in that something sometimes we call it a school ... fail ...

at least we are chunting out millions of high quality baby sitters or something ...


//...


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Old 03-23-2006, 10:37 AM   #8
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Thumbs down

I don't have any problems with workers coming from or working anywhere, but I do have a problem with the idea that human beings are 'expendable.' (And not just in the military sense ... ...)

Eventually, every single one of us will (if the military doesn't get to you first) get old, and need things like pensions and health-care that have been set-aside from our working years. No one seems to be considering that. "Forever Young," you know.

As you say, the "imported" workers are often as not getting screwed also, because as "non-citizens" they essentially have no rights here. And I just don't think that this is a very smart long-term way to run an I.T. department. Unfortunately once again, no one seems to be thinking in "the long term." It's almost like what happens in the cabbage fields: if those workers had recognition and benefits it would cost about ten cents more for that head of cabbage.

Maybe it's just the Wal-Mart mentality ... "if we offer expensive stuff will they like us again?" Entirely missing the point. If you treat a human being as a human resource and provide that human being with nothing more than "a small pay check today," you're going to have an enormous problem on your hands tomorrow.

And, y'know, I think that we can figure out a way to just do better than that... and still make money. It might not be obvious to the lawyers and accountants, but then again you can get into a lot of trouble if you only listen to lawyers and accountants. Right now, what we seem to be doing is "eating the seeds instead of planting them."
 
Old 03-23-2006, 10:46 AM   #9
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don't worry ms smith there is nothing wrong with you an expensive opperation
and some very expensive medicines cant prolong.
 
Old 03-23-2006, 01:00 PM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crito
[begin IT worker rant]

First outsource all U.S. CEO positions to China. They're smarter, don't get million dollar bonuses and can be fired without paying for golden parachutes. Second increase H1B visas to bring in doctors from India who'll work for minimum wage. Problems solved.

Next week I solve the legal crisis in America by using green card lawyers from Mexico as public defenders.

[end IT worker rant]
The best thing to do is research into hats that control china and india man. That way we don't have to pay them at all. Just feed them crappy leftover while we travel the world and watch tv.
 
Old 03-23-2006, 09:21 PM   #11
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The solution to health care is making people responsible for their own health. Hold them responsible for all the crap they eat, the lack of exercise, the drugs, alcohol and tobacco they poison their bodies with.

Actual have the health classes in schools teach kids about proper nutrition and responsibility for their own health.

Get the governments to acknowledge the fact that all the drugs used to treat animals that people eat is a bad practice. Heck get them to acknowledge the fact that being a vegatarian leads to being healthier.

Bring back the more natural methods of treating illness and stop using posions to tryto cure things.
 
Old 03-23-2006, 10:08 PM   #12
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Just realized this is another anti-India, anti-China rant...
I don't want to get into this one.

Last edited by vharishankar; 03-23-2006 at 10:11 PM.
 
Old 03-23-2006, 11:18 PM   #13
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Just realized this is another anti-India, anti-China rant...
I don't want to get into this one.
It's interesting to see that India, China, Iran, Russia don't see each other as a threat.
 
Old 03-23-2006, 11:46 PM   #14
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The solution to health care is making people responsible for their own health. Hold them responsible for all the crap they eat, the lack of exercise, the drugs, alcohol and tobacco they poison their bodies with.
I'd like to know what you think about that in twenty years, when your body is not quite so young; or after the first time you actually need the health-care system.

Probably the first step of actually doing something about health care is to audit them. The charges are outrageous.
 
Old 03-24-2006, 11:28 PM   #15
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It's interesting to see that India, China, Iran, Russia don't see each other as a threat.
That might have something to do with them having something in common: Repressive, Totalitarism.

Its hard to believe that, that is still around.



This thread title implies a health care crisis, Where is that exactly?

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