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Old 03-09-2019, 05:54 AM   #1
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"Smart" car alarms: the latest scandal.


The security systems in question are controlled by smartphone apps. They are manufactured by Clifford (selling as Viper in the US) and a Russian company called Pandora. They are supposed to protect you from thieves who relay your key fob signal from inside your house to steal your car parked outside. In addition, they allow "enhancements" (now where have I heard that before?) which allow you to control some features of your car remotely.

It turns out that this "security" software is riddled with bugs that allow a registered owner to get control of any other car on the system. Find a nice car worth stealing and you can immobilise it, open the doors, turf the driver out and drive off with the car.

I heard of this on the BBC technology news this morning, but it didn't take long to find online accounts of how it works on reliable sites. This one comes from The Register.

Will people never learn?
 
Old 03-09-2019, 09:42 AM   #2
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with every new software, there are going to be bugs in it. ... maybe this is just there testing mode to find out where the bugs are. They are just not telling the users that. ...
 
Old 03-09-2019, 08:10 PM   #3
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Will people never learn?
No.

Some people will be suckered into whatever is new and shiny without bothering to do their homework. It's K-sub-i, the "idiocy constant" in human nature. As someone I used to work with would tell new supervisors in supervisor training, "If can't accept that a certain pecentage of you subordinates will be idiots, you shouldn't become a supervisor."
 
Old 03-10-2019, 05:18 AM   #4
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What's wrong with key locks, they've worked OK for years, why all this electronic gadgetry!?
 
Old 03-10-2019, 08:17 AM   #5
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^ yep. weirdest thing is, i don't know anybody first-hand who'd want to buy something like that.
somewhere, the general populace must be really spaced out & crazy.

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with every new software, there are going to be bugs in it. ... maybe this is just there testing mode to find out where the bugs are. They are just not telling the users that. ...
i wonder if you forgot to put an emoji on that... cannot imagine saying it unsarcastically in this context...
 
Old 03-10-2019, 08:29 AM   #6
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What's wrong with key locks, they've worked OK for years, why all this electronic gadgetry!?
Because people want to be lazy.

What's wrong with a light switch? They've worked for years too, yet you can download an app for your smartphone and use that as the light switch instead. I know a guy that thinks it's cool to use an app instead of his TV remote - even though it's sitting right next his TV.

This world is going to sh*t...
 
Old 03-10-2019, 10:30 PM   #7
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Because they can, which is a sufficient reason for 15-year-old boys, but not for anyone else.

My girlfriend recently got a new car, a slightly used Subaru, which came with one of those key fob thingees.

Honest to Pete, if you unlock the door with the key, rather than the key fob push button, the alarm goes off.

I do not have words for the stupid.
 
  


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