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Old 02-08-2021, 02:19 PM   #1
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Setting up new system, Dual boot recommendation.


Unfortunately I need to dual boot a Windows OS because of work and employment opportunities. My previous set up of arch linux and a windows VM had alot of hiccups and limitations (partially due to video cards and partially my own inexperience with transferring files to and from a VM with different partition format). I've heard of stories where the entire hardrive got corrupted due to auto-updates and even some where it touches and screws up with other hard drives.
I have a 6TB HDD that I'm planning on using for file storage and backup storage and possibly to keep the windows OS in a small partition. I also have a 1TB SSD what I'm planning on keeping a linux OS on and possibly splitting it to have a Windows OS on it.
I'm wondering what windows OS I should install on what harddrive. My purpose for this OS is to run Programs that can not be run on Wine (Wine is not a emulator) on my other valued system. A Windows OS on the 6TB hard drive might screw up with the other partitions and backups and I'm worried about this. A Windows program on the SSD might screw up my other OS and make it inoperable. I need a windows OS to just run third party windows programs without it screwing up other partitions on the hard drive or the other solid state drive.
I don't mind if the windows can't read other partitions but I don't want it messing with the other partitions and I certainly don't wan't it messing with the other os making it unbootable. What kind of Windows should I get to prevent this from occurring. The auto-updates seems to be the cause of most of the problems so is there a way to disable it and is it safer to get a older version of windows like 8.1 to prevent this from happening?
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:50 PM   #2
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WSL 2

I'm not sure this the place for your questions. But here we go.
Lots of options you have.

You can install WSL 2 on your windows machine with power shell then the linux kernel and do a rsync ssh of your entire OS. Can be exported and imported the linux distro since you have lots of space there.

I don't know exactly what you mean by messing linux partition with dual boot, unless your hd is screwed. Any case you can rsync your linux dual booted as well to a hd backup, server, other machine, cloud. Or you can have an handy linux distro on flash and boot from there, save your data, encrypted, fix errors, etc.

About the win updates and stuff I'm afraid there are better places to discuss that.

Hope I can shed some light.
 
Old 02-09-2021, 04:11 AM   #3
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I know next to nothing about VMs but I've been multibooting since 1992, with as many as a dozen different systems at times, all on various hard install media. Presently I have Windows, Slackware 14.2, Slackware ~Current, and Open Suse (3 of those on an NVME, 1 on mechanical) all booting sweetly via rEFInd UEFI bootmanager.

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I actually don't know if this makes a difference since I'm new to EFI boot but originally I installed LILO to the MBR of /dev/sda1 which is what Windows generally expects for it's own bootloader. It's still setup that way which means when I enable CSM in BIOS/UEFI I can boot 3 more earlier MBR-based systems. I've never had any problems of one system fighting with another as long as I know what partitions Windows sometimes "offers" to format and refusing.
 
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I'm not sure this the place for your questions. But here we go.
Lots of options you have.

You can install WSL 2 on your windows machine with power shell then the linux kernel and do a rsync ssh of your entire OS. Can be exported and imported the linux distro since you have lots of space there.

I don't know exactly what you mean by messing linux partition with dual boot, unless your hd is screwed. Any case you can rsync your linux dual booted as well to a hd backup, server, other machine, cloud. Or you can have an handy linux distro on flash and boot from there, save your data, encrypted, fix errors, etc.

About the win updates and stuff I'm afraid there are better places to discuss that.

Hope I can shed some light.
When I mean the fear of the possibility of partitions messing with others I mean this https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...b-5a8b0eadbb72
 
Old 02-10-2021, 11:29 AM   #5
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It seems to me, if you're not worried about whether Windows can read your Linux partitions or not, the biggest risk is Windows interfering with whatever bootloader your Linux install uses (that assumes that Windows cannot read your Linux filesystems). There are ways to make GRUB for example the "primary" bootloader, and it can boot Windows via chainloading as much as it can boot Linux. The easiest way is to install Windows first if you plan on installing both Windows and Linux on to the same physical drive. Then install whatever Linux distribution you plan to use/install. That way GRUB should likely detect Windows and add it to it's boot menu, and by the same token you won't need to worry about the Windows bootloader overwriting GRUB.

You could also just buy another drive and install Windows on one, and Linux on the other. But you'd need to either add boot entries for both to your UEFI boot menu, or add one of them to the other's bootloader boot menu. Other than that, that would remove the risk of one system interfering with the other.

AFAIK, Windows doesn't include the relevant filesystem drivers by default that would enable it to mount Linux-based filesystems. But you can obviously download such drivers for Windows though. Linux has a VFAT kernel driver that can read and write to FAT32, FAT16 filesystems, and you can install the ntfs-3g driver to read and write to an NTFS filesystem under Linux.
 
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VirtualBox is extremely easy to use and it has drivers for all Windows versions. Also, it has its own way to allow the guest OS to access the directory of your choice in host OS. There is no danger for host, whatever happens to the Windows will not damage your Linux host. Furthermore, it allows you to take snapshots of guest OS, when something goes wrong with your Windows you can just roll back to a working version. And in fullscreen mode nobody will even suspect it is not the primary OS running. There is not much to learn to get it working.
 
  


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