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hazel 02-13-2018 02:33 AM

Serves him right!
 
A poacher who was apparently trying to kill lions for their body parts (very valuable in oriental traditional medicine) was himself killed and eaten by the pride he was hunting. Though they ate most of his body, they left the head intact as if they wanted to ensure that he could be identified.

African lions are not usually man-eaters.

fatmac 02-13-2018 04:52 AM

I hope they didn't get indigestion....

Michael Uplawski 02-13-2018 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fatmac (Post 5819226)
I hope they didn't get indigestion....

I am more afraid of the punctual but temporary, world-wide attention that this one event has won. The amount of topics not dealt on public media is growing daily.

Habitual 02-13-2018 10:29 AM

Pride goeth before destruction? :)

enorbet 02-13-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Habitual (Post 5819359)
Pride goeth before destruction? :)

Isn't taking pride in humility an oxymoron? ;)

sundialsvcs 02-13-2018 02:20 PM

Destruction goeth with the pride ... of lions.

hazel 02-13-2018 02:57 PM

Apparently when domestic cats eat a mouse, they also tend to leave the head.

ChuangTzu 02-13-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 5819199)
A poacher who was apparently trying to kill lions for their body parts (very valuable in oriental traditional medicine) was himself killed and eaten by the pride he was hunting. Though they ate most of his body, they left the head intact as if they wanted to ensure that he could be identified.

African lions are not usually man-eaters.

1) Good for the Lion, if these poachers had any balls, they would try hand to paw/claw combat.

2) Hazel, you are thinking of Tiger bones/penis that was very valuable for a very small minority of people. The vast majority of Chinese Medicine and Taoism never used Tigers as they were/are considered a sacred animal. This was overblown in western media and made to look like it was a prevalent problem. Similar to saying that crime in the US is out of control because Chicago has so many murders, wait maybe that wasnt a good example. Anyway, this is an old rehashed stereotype that has been used for far too long to discredit a valuable medical system.

3) Leaving the head to be identified...LOL..this was great. Made an example of him they did.

PS: There is Lions Mane Mushroom which people (western world) often confuse with using actual Lion.

jefro 02-13-2018 04:47 PM

The problem is not the poacher but the people who demand these products.

I'm against illegal hunting but also against unfair punishment. He didn't deserve to die for his illegal actions.

hazel 02-14-2018 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jefro (Post 5819531)
The problem is not the poacher but the people who demand these products.

Well, obviously if there was no market, there would be no sellers. But if you point that out, you get accused of being unfair to the Chinese ;).
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I'm against illegal hunting but also against unfair punishment. He didn't deserve to die for his illegal actions.
If he had been lynched or shot by a warden, I would be inclined to agree with you. Human justice demands that the punishment should fit the crime and not be excessive. But this is an example of poetic justice, and poetic justice requires only that the consequence should flow naturally from the act with no arbitrary intervention by third parties.

Let me give you another example:
1) A woman goes out shopping and tells her child, "Don't touch the stove. It's hot." As soon as she is gone, the child puts his hand on the stove to see if it really is hot. Of course he burns his hand. When the mother comes home, she puts salve on his hand and bandages it, but shows him no sympathy. "Serves you right," she says. "I told you not to touch it. Why do you never listen when I talk to you?"
2) A woman is trying to clean up and her child tags after her asking endless questions. She keeps telling him to go away and stop pestering her. Finally she snaps. She drags him over to the stove and presses his hand against it. When he howls, she tells him, "Serves you right! Why do you never listen when I talk to you?"

In the first case, most people would agree with the mother's verdict, but the second case horrifies us. This is child abuse and we would like to see the woman sent to prison. And yet the degree of suffering by the child is exactly the same in both cases. So why does it serve him right in the first case but not in the second?

I think it is because the second story is about punishment -- legal justice -- and punishment is supposed to fit the crime. This punishment was grossly excessive. The first story is about an action and its consequences, i.e. poetic justice and that doesn't require proportionality.

BW-userx 02-14-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 5819480)
Apparently when domestic cats eat a mouse, they also tend to leave the head.

so Who wants to live with the memories of the attacker or victim (whichever the case maybe), of the one they put to death then ate for the rest of their life? I wouldn't eat the head either. :D hehe

I think that is more of a Zombie Thing. Brains....

hazel 02-14-2018 11:24 AM

Eating someone's brain doesn't give you his memories. Where did you get that idea from?

BW-userx 02-14-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 5819828)
Eating someone's brain doesn't give you his memories. Where did you get that idea from?

you really need to learn more about biocyberkinetics. :D

Having a mouse learn a maze then killing it, then feeding its brain to another mouse has shown that the other mouse knows the maze. in short.... it was a joke, I'd think the Zombie reference would give (you) a clue.

rob.rice 02-19-2018 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jefro (Post 5819531)
The problem is not the poacher but the people who demand these products.

I'm against illegal hunting but also against unfair punishment. He didn't deserve to die for his illegal actions.

the way I see it is in this case his potential victims defended themselves so he did deserve to die

it's not like the law meated out this punishment

BW-userx 02-19-2018 06:16 AM

NO one deserve to die or be killed because you think what he or she did was so wrong kill him. Where does that Blood thirsty Godless mentality come from, and why?

This internal sense of need for Justice. Can any one define Justice and all of the particulars what come with it?

He killed or tried to kill an animal out of pride but as luck had it the animal was able to defend himself in time and did so because of something called the survival instincts. The animal did what it only could, Kill him to stop him from being in a state of fear for its own life so it could gain back its equilibrium.

It was his own dumb fault for putting himself into a situation that he did that caused him to lose his own life all out of an act of selfish pride so he could have something to make himself feel better about himself, make him feel like a 'somebody'. It is an improper way to feed ones own ego to give them that feeling their psyche is craving so they too can not only try to maintain a certain kind of sense of equilibrium of ones self, but gain a high from the act being committed and the feelings gained by the ones he goes to that accept what he has done. So he too can obtain that feeling of acceptance. Which is part of what Love is. Something everyone needs to survive and live a normal and psychical and physical healthy life. But unforuntally most do not know how to give or gain this in its proper state so the optimum results can be had by both parties, or all parties involved.

Why did the animal leave the head?

Try biting into a skull until you get to the meat inside of it. Would you waste your time with messing with something that is so time consuming and may cause damage to your jaw and or teeth?

It's too much to bother with. It is easier to gain what he wanted to try and fill its belly with every other part of the body.

Therefore, it seems only good reasoning that it was left behind.


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