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Old 04-11-2019, 02:55 PM   #16
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Since this thread is basically a dupe of https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ce-4175651781/ I've reported it to be closed.
Hey we agree jsb!

Also reported as a duplicate, how many of these threads do we need? Let's keep the conversation in the other thread. What next a poll on buying guns on a Mon.? Is America safer with barettas or glocks?
 
Old 04-11-2019, 09:22 PM   #17
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My action item is to withdraw from this deadend activity here.

THE OTHER POST'S TITLE IS MISLEADING AND AGAINST RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

So if you participate as Pro Firearms you are in a bad position right from the get go.

Pretty clear.

Some critics are being churlish(intentionally playing stupid and being irritating).

The poster of the other posts is laughing at the pro firearms posters that fell for it.

I think it would be more fun to debate a less emotionally charged issue.

I could just not let the manipulative cynical post go by without protesting it.

Real Americans do that kind of thing.Right wrongs.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 12:47 AM   #18
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The poster of the other posts is laughing at the pro firearms posters that fell for it.

I could just not let the manipulative cynical post go by without protesting it.

Real Americans do that kind of thing. Right wrongs.
it needs to be said twice:
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You prove the point that guns should be banned.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 01:12 AM   #19
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Hey we agree jsb!

Also reported as a duplicate, how many of these threads do we need? Let's keep the conversation in the other thread. What next a poll on buying guns on a Mon.? Is America safer with barettas or glocks?
Actually, I don't think they are loud enough, I think there should be an even bigger bang when you fire it. On second thought, I don't like the color of them either, I think they should be glow-in-the-dark too.

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it needs to be said twice:
It can't hurt to say it again:

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You prove the point that guns should be banned.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 01:31 AM   #20
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We all are taught many things wrong from birth; except that we are only human*,,, guns are just an extension of our stupidities and evolution... let's hope!
 
Old 04-12-2019, 02:01 AM   #21
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'guns are just an extension of our stupidities'

A lot of people live WAY OUT where there is nothing around them.

Yes.That would be incredibly stupid to live out there without firearms in he home.

So.They do have them.

BIG DIFFERENCE between living there and in a crowded city where police are only

minutes away.

Maybe when the bad guys show up you could show them all the things you wrote against

guns and would they please not hurt you.

Sounds like the heigth of stupidity there.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 07:33 AM   #22
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'Wrong. It is not a 'right' for someone mentally unstable to be able to get one, so don't split hairs. You are ALLOWED to have one if you pass a background check, just like you're ALLOWED to drive a car, if you can pass a driving test. Like you're ALLOWED to walk around, if you don't break laws. That's what it is...a privilege that can be taken away. You are either a troll or just dimwitted.'

Every sentence there is bending the truth.This person has had practice.Lots of it!
Oh? since you're an expert, tell me what's bending the truth?
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That is what the average American is up against. While they are busy working and raising families these types work on ways to deceive them. This person could write deceptive ballot measures that sound like they mean one thing and actually do the other. The insane person killing people has nothing to do with average people keeping firearms in there home or owning them period.Constitutional right to bear arms.
So why don't you tell us (instead of whining) how exactly you can tell the insane person wanting a gun from someone who ISN'T?? Remember: you don't want any sort of regulations, background checks, etc., right?? Tell us how you do it.
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This person has a invalid and empty argument.It is just 'take firearms' blather.
Except for the parts where I specifically say that banning is NOT an option, nor should it be? Or that I have many? Right.
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'Far better to take guns away from idiots and nuts.' I agree with him on that.That person just wrote that sloppily.What the person wants is to rewrite the Constitution and take away the RIGHT to bear arms.
Very typical reaction from someone like you. Pushed on your point, you rant about how *THEY* want to ban things, twist words, etc., without actually addressing any of what was said. Misdirection, and it's typical from someone who has entered into an argument without being informed, and then won't admit it.

Keep digging.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 08:18 AM   #23
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Looks like this is more about the topic then the subject matter itself. How strange, it went from "right to bear arms" to the "right to have freedom of speech". and didn't someone else already talk about right to bear arms before. Which has and will always be talked about, therefore repeated repeatedly.

If someone leaves in a house that they actually need a gun firearm to protect it and its possessions and habitat in this day and age. I'd suggest looking for a different place to live.

As far as owning a gun or firearm for the sake of having one. Yeah. why not? Guns are cool. Nothing wrong with taking pot shots at a small tree branch to see if you can shoot it off the tree at 500 or more yards, target shooting, skeet shooting and just killing for something to eat.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 09:48 AM   #24
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Not always. When they wanna get ya. They get ya.

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“I have all the guns and the money. I can withstand challenge from without and from within,” Brown told the party,
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Hoover created a secret agency to destroy the party with a mission to “expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit or otherwise neutralize” party members, according to FBI records.
Black Panther party had all that and a bag of chips.

Cops would shoot 1st. Proven in court already. Cops did not like them using scanners and protecting the neighborhood from police brutality.

Your mention of cops only being minutes away as a argument.
Location, location, location. Attitude , attitude, attitude.

Cop protection, for Americans vary from color of skin, religious preferences,
income status, as well as how that officer looks at you one day. If he is having a bad day. Guess what? You might be drawn into his day.

Having had a officers gun pulled and drawn and cocked in my direction. Because the officer was insecure and afeared. Well. Ride with me and see the real world.

Not experience from some airy fairy online assumptions from a laptop,desktop, phone, or what ever.

Ambiguous at best. My take. It is execution by cop. Not unheard of when they are out to get you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ooa7wOKHhg

Just another reason I like living in the boonies.
@ the OP. You need to smell the roses.
Not the air freshener.

Blanket statements like safer never cover details.
Details count alot when it comes to gun play.

Like the Waco shooting. Most deaths were induced by ATF. The po po.

No harm no foul, I guess. They had protection < Waco residents >. But when they wanna get ya. They got ya. I guess after Waco. Things cooled down abit in TX.

I'd be more afeared of the Zika Virus or Lyme disease effecting my life than guns. But it is nice to know. If the world get any crazier as I get older.

I got options.Because when it comes to survival. Mobility is a good survival tool to have. If they decide I am important enough to put down. I can re-locate on a motorcycle. If a helicopter is in their budget with a infa red unit .

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“He’s southbound on Carter Lake Shore Drive, coming up on Locust,” said Officer Jason Messerschmidt, who was maneuvering the new camera to follow the blue motorcycle. “And he’s still doing wheelies, that’s cool.”
Guess what. I'm screwed.

Safer is state of mind for me. Feel safe by my dogs. At home. On the street.
Only armament on my immediate person is a flashlight and multi tool.
In a no win situation. I lose.
So far. I've avoided no win situations.
MacGyver , I aint.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 10:35 AM   #25
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The right to bear arms IS A RIGHT. Guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the constitution.
Americans can say what they want and this American is saying it.
And this Englishman is saying "who cares about your constitution?" This is an international forum and the rest of the world is simply bored by stuff like this. Save it for Twitter.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 12:49 PM   #26
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And also this non-american citizen is saying "who cares about your constitution?" This is an international forum and the rest of the world is simply bored by stuff like this. Save it for reddit.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 03:50 PM   #27
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Looks like this is more about the topic then the subject matter itself. How strange, it went from "right to bear arms" to the "right to have freedom of speech". and didn't someone else already talk about right to bear arms before. Which has and will always be talked about, therefore repeated repeatedly.

If someone leaves in a house that they actually need a gun firearm to protect it and its possessions and habitat in this day and age. I'd suggest looking for a different place to live.

As far as owning a gun or firearm for the sake of having one. Yeah. why not? Guns are cool. Nothing wrong with taking pot shots at a small tree branch to see if you can shoot it off the tree at 500 or more yards, target shooting, skeet shooting and just killing for something to eat.
Well, without the right to bear arms, you cannot have free speech, or without the 2nd Amendment, the 1st amendment is meaningless.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 03:51 PM   #28
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And this Englishman is saying "who cares about your constitution?" This is an international forum and the rest of the world is simply bored by stuff like this. Save it for Twitter.
Noone is making you read the thread or respond to it: Nothing to see here carry on.
 
Old 04-12-2019, 05:15 PM   #29
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Well, without the right to bear arms, you cannot have free speech, or without the 2nd Amendment, the 1st amendment is meaningless.
What?
That makes no sense.

Well ... unless you mean to kill people that don't listen to you ... oh wait ... US foreign policy ...
 
Old 04-12-2019, 05:40 PM   #30
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'So why don't you tell us (instead of whining) how exactly you can tell the insane person wanting a gun from someone who ISN'T??'

Right now the mass murder are what's pushing attempts to limit firearms ownership.

Knowing if a gun buyer or someone already owning one is going insane is impossible.

Screening the whole population for mental illness is unconstitutional.

It is impossible to tell who is a potential murderer.If it was it would have been done years

ago.

Disarming the population would not stop insane killers.Granted a firearm is more accessible than most other methods.

Throwing out the baby with the bathwater is not the solution to stopping mass murderers.

Mass murderers need to be stopped.Action should be taken to limit their effects.That would be a good start.

Special departments or at least a couple officers as mass murderer preventers might be a solution.

Maybe information exchanged about when to be on the watch.

Something should be done AT ALL SCHOOLS.
 
  


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