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Old 09-27-2019, 12:35 PM   #61
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Hach, sometimes I really miss the Upvote buttons...
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:57 PM   #62
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This was a concerted corporate backed effort, by diverse parties, who all sing from the same hymn sheet, aided every step of the way by nasty tech press journalism - and of course by the multitudes of professionally offended, useful idiots with the "social justice warrior" mentality.

In another thread I commented that, while Cloudflare, faecebook, etc can host some very questionable, if not illegal content, only taking it down for good PR, while their CEOs remain employed billionaires, this man cannot speak his mind without being targeted by what I would call a mindless mob, who feed on and spew out "viral outrage".

Whether you like Stallman or not - others should be fearful.
Eloquent, hits every nail square on the head.

Indeed, we must all fear.

The problem is indeed the mindless mob unconstrained by truth. They find their power as useful idiots, forming coalitions and consensus under the flag of most advantage to themselves. Once empowered they rage and burn until there is nothing left standing - including their original corporate sponsors and anything and anyone else in their path.

Democracy fully matured - self evident truth replaced as the decider of all things, first by the head count, then by the noise level of the mob with the loudest amplifiers and most aggressive organizers. The mob will now have its way, truth be damned, as we have seen here.

Understand this for what it is - the public lynching of truth and the man who spoke it, in his own house, a man of demonstrated good character. The fires are burning brightly...

Be very afraid.

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Old 09-27-2019, 07:09 PM   #63
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The toy company Nerf (Mattel?) should be scared. The new and improved FSF is gunning for them, with nerf darts? Seriously this was on the mailing list today. Cannot make this up. So if anybody is pissed their 6 year old kid cannot fire nerf darts from the competitor' s... oh wait does Nerf even have competitors?, you are the person the new FSF Twitter Champions of Nerf Ammunition Freedom are looking for.


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2) The International Day Against DRM is coming up fast on October 12,
and along with sharing the call for participation at
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/...n-october-12th,
I'm hoping one of you can promote this in a slightly odd way that we
can't really quite do on our own: the subreddit
https://old.reddit.com/r/assholedesign/ is really popular, and it often
includes posts about DRM outrages, and occasionally leads to people
directing folks to our Defective By Design campaign. As such, it's a
resource we can use to educate a broader audience, and one good "in" for
today is this ludicrous new news item about DRM:
https://boingboing.net/2019/09/24/un...zed-darts.html. Can someone
post the boingboing article with some variation on this blurb that we
posted on twitter:

/Digital Restrictions Management #DRM takes the fun out of everything,
even Nerf darts: the new Nerf Ultra One blaster detects and refuses to
fire third-party darts. Ridiculous! //https://u.fsf.org/2wx//Join us to
fight against #DRM on October 12: //https://u.fsf.org/2wo//
/
Someone tell them that D in DRM means Digital please.

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Old 09-27-2019, 08:15 PM   #64
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From what you quoted it looks like FSF is using Nerf as an example to further their cause. I know people that have no idea about DRM or FSF but they do know about Nerf. This would be relatable to them. A good way to reach people that might not be up on tech stuff. A good "in" as they mentioned.
 
Old 09-27-2019, 08:22 PM   #65
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Someone tell them that D in DRM means Digital please.
I thought it meant "Dart"
 
Old 09-27-2019, 11:15 PM   #66
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A good amount of people know nothing about a good deal of things. It does not matter, the FSF had a focus and it is now gone to the birds. What is the point of chasing those that know nothing about it? It is a waste of time, effort, donor money, and if someone wants to know more they can easily find out more. Read the article and it says not one thing on how Hasbro prevents cheap knock off darts, that could injure someone, too not fire. Did not mention if it was electronic, mechanical, chemical, nothing. FSF is participating in click bait tactics now?

"What is a political coup compared to the DRM offence against our hard won
rights in the form of a nerf gun that is a kid' s toy (although as a middle-
aged man they are still fun), or the possible investigation of hidden ties
from the corporate world of an unethical, criminal, attack on one of the
founders of our movement? Or the myriad of other issues daily that encroach
upon our computing freedoms.

The FSF seems more focused on whether a toy company can shoot competitor' s
ammunition. This is an issue that has nothing to do with it' s founding, what
was it s focus, or anything at all to do with our computing freedom and
something only a little kid would care about; for about 6 seconds.

Waste donors money chasing a nerf company instead of real issues. This must be
the new FSF they wanted on Twitter. A nerfed, distracted, incompetant,
organization that is ineffective against government and corporations whose
sole educational value seems to be how a nerf company is evil for not allowing
other companies to shoot it' s toy ammunition from a toy gun. The great
defenders of nerf gun users everywhere from the age of 2 to 12. Great campaign
for freedom... "

More of my sarcasm from disgust on the mailing list.

I guess you are right now Mechanikx. The FSF Twatter Champions of Nerf Ammunition in the Defence of Dart Rights Management. Unregulated and cheap darts for every kid to take out eyes and make a game into a sport. We would like to take a break for a word from our tobacco sponsors...
 
Old 09-28-2019, 03:07 PM   #67
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The toy company Nerf (Mattel?) should be scared. The new and improved FSF is gunning for them, with nerf darts? Seriously this was on the mailing list today. Cannot make this up. So if anybody is pissed their 6 year old kid cannot fire nerf darts from the competitor' s... oh wait does Nerf even have competitors?, you are the person the new FSF Twitter Champions of Nerf Ammunition Freedom are looking for.
You guys did all read the story Unauthorized Bread, right?
When I did, I said "uncomfortably close to present-day reality", and here we are...
 
Old 09-28-2019, 05:23 PM   #68
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You guys did all read the story Unauthorized Bread, right?
When I did, I said "uncomfortably close to present-day reality", and here we are...
I had not, it is now reserved from the library. I did ponder for a moment on the irony that I had a choice between an ebook version or the actual book.
 
Old 09-28-2019, 09:26 PM   #69
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And it keeps getting worse.

Resigning from GNU as well: https://stallman.org/archives/2019-j..._(GNU_Project)

And he's looking for a place to live.
 
Old 09-29-2019, 12:29 AM   #70
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And it keeps getting worse.

Resigning from GNU as well: https://stallman.org/archives/2019-j..._(GNU_Project)

And he's looking for a place to live.
The URL is a day earlier.
https://stallman.org/archives/2019-j...9_(GNU_Project)

Edit: Rumor is now that the site was defaced.

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Old 09-30-2019, 04:06 AM   #71
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The toy company Nerf (Mattel?) should be scared. The new and improved FSF is gunning for them, with nerf darts? Seriously this was on the mailing list today. Cannot make this up. So if anybody is pissed their 6 year old kid cannot fire nerf darts from the competitor' s... oh wait does Nerf even have competitors?, you are the person the new FSF Twitter Champions of Nerf Ammunition Freedom are looking for.


Someone tell them that D in DRM means Digital please.
Each dart either can or cannot be fired by a Nerf gun. Sounds digital to me.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 07:10 AM   #72
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The URL is a day earlier.
https://stallman.org/archives/2019-j...9_(GNU_Project)

Edit: Rumor is now that the site was defaced.
Latest rumor (from a reputable news organization, but with the disclaimer that it had not yet been verified) is that his sties had been defaced by an FSF MEMBER with DIRECT SERVER ACCESS!!! If true, he was not only railroaded out of the FSF without cause, but there are FSF members that are acting like hateful, immature criminals in pursuing and harassing him! This is irritating and demoralizing, and far blow the standards of the community. I am watching for more facts.
 
Old 09-30-2019, 07:59 AM   #73
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Latest rumor (from a reputable news organization, but with the disclaimer that it had not yet been verified) is that his sties had been defaced by an FSF MEMBER with DIRECT SERVER ACCESS!!! If true, he was not only railroaded out of the FSF without cause, but there are FSF members that are acting like hateful, immature criminals in pursuing and harassing him! This is irritating and demoralizing, and far blow the standards of the community. I am watching for more facts.
stallman.org used to be hosted on an FSF server which apparently led to vandalism following his leaving. It has been relocated to a GNU Project server.

freemedia2018 would be able to say more, he confirmed he has a source.

http://techrights.org/2019/09/29/fsf-defaced-rms/
 
Old 09-30-2019, 08:45 AM   #74
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I can't believe how nasty this is getting. I always thought the free software community were the good guys!
 
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