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Old 01-06-2006, 11:12 AM   #1
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RHEL support


Hi all,

Concerning RedHatEnterprise licensing policy:

Anyone knows if the automatic updates arew included in the "services" as described in the License agreement ?

Problem is : If I want to clone a machine legally installed with RHE, I don't really care having no "services" on the clones - But I do want to apply the updates from the legal box to the others without breaking the law.
For this do I need to buy one license per machine??? It's not clear to me, please help me clarify things.

Again, I'd like to stay in the completely legal side.

Have a nice week-end,

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Old 01-06-2006, 12:27 PM   #2
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if you are only buying the license for the updates, then dont waist the money and use CentOS. it is a fork of RHE and gets the updates very fast and it just works.
 
Old 01-06-2006, 04:57 PM   #3
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Unfortunately I am stuck with RHE because the hardware my servers are based upon have been certified with RHE. I agree a RHE fork would probably work but it is not supported by my hardware.
So what I'd like to know is if one only RHE license is enough to legally distribute the upgrades to several machines.

I don't mind paying, I want it to be legal :>

Thanks for your help
 
Old 01-06-2006, 05:11 PM   #4
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So why dont you ring or e-mail their customer service
and find out from them .........
 
Old 01-06-2006, 06:11 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by laurent01
Unfortunately I am stuck with RHE because the hardware my servers are based upon have been certified with RHE. I agree a RHE fork would probably work but it is not supported by my hardware.
So what I'd like to know is if one only RHE license is enough to legally distribute the upgrades to several machines.

I don't mind paying, I want it to be legal :>

Thanks for your help

um, just FYI, a fork means it is the same with limited changes. in the case of CentOS, the only changes are the removal of all of the trademark logos and names that point back to RH.

go to CentOS home page and read up on them. it uses 100% of the RHE srpm and is for all practical purpose RHE without the fee.

if the hardware will work with RHE, it will work with any linux distro including CentOS.

i am not saying do not pay RH for their server, but if you are only paying for the updates, then you are waisting your money. both are 100% legal as linux is FREE and RHE is linux, thus it is also free. if you own 1 copy of RHE you are 100% free to do with it as you please to include post it for others to download and install, etc...


welcome to the world that is linux.
 
Old 01-06-2006, 06:13 PM   #6
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floppywhopper I am not phoning them because I don't have an official distribution yet... but would buy one...If that's enough to legally yum the updates to the other machines. I have the feeling it's officially okay as updates are opensource themselves, but in the same time it is a service -thus my question.
 
Old 01-06-2006, 06:20 PM   #7
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thks ileb, it does looks good indeed.
I will double-check the support aspect with my Hardware providers first...
 
Old 01-06-2006, 09:42 PM   #8
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floppywhopper I am not phoning them because I don't have an official distribution yet... but would buy one...If that's enough to legally yum the updates to the other machines. I have the feeling it's officially okay as updates are opensource themselves, but in the same time it is a service -thus my question.
But that shouldnt stop you from enquiring. I'm sure their salespeople would be only too happy to talk to you.
The best policy when asking about legal stuff is to actually ask either a lawyer who specialises in this stuff or the people concerned - in this case Red Hat.

You have nothing to lose by sending them an e-mail and explaining your situation.

cheers
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Old 01-10-2006, 11:24 AM   #9
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ok from RedHat FAQ

Quote:
4. Is Enterprise Linux open source?

Except for a few components provided by third parties (like Java) all the code in Red Hat products is open source and licensed under the GPL (or a similar license, such as the LGPL). So you always have free access to the source code. In fact you can download the source code from our FTP servers at any time. However, Red Hat does not provide free access to the binaries of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and these, combined with an annual subscription to Red Hat Network, access to upgrades, and a selected support service, are the components that comprise an Enterprise Linux subscription. Since every Enterprise Linux product includes support for the system on which it is installed, Red Hat supplies the products with a per-system usage/support agreement. This simple model ensures that systems which use Red Hat Enterprise Linux are able to access the maintenance, services and product upgrades to which they are entitled. Of course, as mentioned before, this has no impact on your access to the Red Hat Enterprise Linux source code.
in short if you are using yum to update you can do so. RH onyl "sells" support for each system, but that does not stop you from doing anything with those .rpm packages that you wish. thank you GPL.

http://www.redhat.com/en_us/USA/rhel/details/faq/#4

that is the link i got the info from.
 
  


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