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Old 01-09-2003, 08:58 PM   #1
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remote admin


Just wondering about ppls thoughts on the best way to remotely administrate a win98 box from either windows or linux.
BUT...both the connections are dialup with private/dynamic IPs

any ideas?

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Old 01-09-2003, 10:43 PM   #2
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remote admin of win98?

Gee! I would say vnc

you just need to know it's ip address. there are ways to do that, I would setup a batch file to upload the ip address or mail it somewhere

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Old 01-10-2003, 05:56 AM   #3
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thanks for ur reply David,

i have thought about VNC (tho never really used it for this purpose)

the ip address will be a private one ..ie 10.12.23.1 (or whatever)

hence that ip is only accessable in the ISP intranet

anyone used pcanywhere, would this suit my needs?

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Old 01-10-2003, 11:24 AM   #4
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PC Anywhere is an expensive version of VNC.
 
Old 01-11-2003, 12:15 AM   #5
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Yes i am aware that is expensive.....is any good reasons why i should shell out for it though over some other program ???
 
Old 01-11-2003, 12:20 AM   #6
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I do not think so, but my needs were very small, and not similar to yours. However, I found it to be VNC with a huge price, nothing more (but like I said, I didn't exactly need anything more than VNC). What I'd suggest is to see if you can find someone (maybe a school) that will allow you to test it out, even if it's just on their machines, so you can "use it before you buy it" type of thing. It's been a while since I've used it, and maybe the features have drastically increased, or maybe it's exactly what you want/need.

I would defintely veer away from forkin over the cash first though (before you can be sure it's what you need), only to find out it's nothing close to fitting your needs.

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Old 01-11-2003, 02:23 AM   #7
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to gain access to the machine on a private network the server ( the one with a valid ip ) will need to be connecting you to the private ip. I do this using ssh to login to the server, then you can use ssh to connect to the private ip.

vnc can be run that way, if that's what you want.
 
Old 01-11-2003, 02:33 AM   #8
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if its anything like mysetup, i have to set up forwarding on the "router", so if you run VNC on port 5599 on the Win98 box, then your router needs to forward all in comming request on port 5599 to the private IP of the win98 box, i'm using a DSL router for this and its mine to its easy to do, if you own the router then you should be able to do the same. when you connect to the win98 box from outside of the network all you would need is the outside IP of the router. (like i have all requests for port 80 going to 192.168.1.101 but my routers ip might be somthing like 66.XX.XX.XX)
 
Old 02-13-2003, 10:51 AM   #9
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documentation on ip forwarding?

do you know where I can find good documentation (book, websites, howto's, tutorials, etc) on how to set up ip forwarding on cable & dsl modems? I will be mostly interested in windows 98 related help....

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Old 02-13-2003, 12:12 PM   #10
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VNC is the way too go, I use it with peoples computers who I know are going to later ask me how to do something and I don't want to visit their homes(extended family). But I would suggest tightVNC though.
 
Old 02-14-2003, 09:45 PM   #11
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I use VNC for windows and linux, to connect to any of my machines. I can connect to my wife's computer now from my motel room and work on it if needed. I can connect to any of my computers at home by forwarding the connection.


I use Linux as my main router. I'm not sure what you mean by this

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I will be mostly interested in windows 98 related help....
windows 98 does not do forwarding very well. You have ICS, which is a proxy server that cannot forward anything. It just connects you to the internet.

Things that require port forwarding will not work.


With linux you can use nat. I do not use hardware routers , I prefer linux. You can check on the vnc website for ideas for using it to do what your trying to do with ssh.

you can do bit local and remote forwarding with ssh to establish the forwarding of the port that the computer you need to connect to has vnc running on when you login.

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Old 02-17-2003, 10:48 AM   #12
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router

situation:
I am in Spokane,WA , I am most familiar with Windows, but am gaining in my understanding of linux... I am using a Cisco 678 Router (adsl) and a switch for my home network. The cisco also acts as a firewall.
The computer I want to be able to control is in San Diego, CA, is running Win98se - and is on a home network through the phone lines - on a cable modem ( the host computer is sharing through Intel hardware & software ).

I am at a loss. I am a little frustrated & don't know where to start...

Thanks!
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Old 02-20-2003, 02:35 PM   #13
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vnc will work, unless there is a firewall preventing the connection, or if the computer you are trying to reach is on a private network, and you cannot control it's default gateway router to forward the connection.

Of course you will need to know the address of this computer to connect to it.
 
Old 02-21-2003, 10:14 AM   #14
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I think that cisco model has a web interface does it not? if so log into it and you will see where you can forward ports, you just need to forward 5559 or whatever port you are using to your private machine inside the network then you will just vnc to your routers ip.

on the vnc, verses pcanyware, pcanyware is mostly the same, better security if you really need it, as long as you use a difficult password for vnc it should do all you need, it will not work any better or worse than pcanyware.

Also a note about pcanyware it does have a couple of neat features, on of which is redirecting the printer, if you want to print from your computer you are pcanywared into you can redirect that print job to the computer you are in front of, nice feature.

And last I would get vnc running first to make sure it is possible with your config and then decide if you need pcanyware.
 
Old 02-25-2003, 07:23 PM   #15
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home network - Intel AnyWhere

The other computer I am trying to connect to is on a shared DSL connection over a phone-line network. How do I get past the sharing computer & get to the other computers on the network?

This has become quite the problem.

I am set up on my end, but the other end is about 1000 miles away - so it is not like I have complete control over it.

HELP!
I feel like I am almost there....
so close...yet 1000 miles away

thanks again,
K3STR3L
 
  


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