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Old 08-15-2021, 06:59 AM   #211
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Don't forget your "booster shot". Here, let me scoot up that booster seat:

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Is a booster shot for your COVID-19 vaccine in your future? While it seems like only yesterday that people were calculating the date they could feel fully protected by their vaccination, now there’s talk that our safety may require another shot in the arm.

In mid-August, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) amended the emergency use authorizations (EUA) for Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna to allow an additional dose of their COVID-19 vaccines for certain immuno-compromised people. The list includes solid organ transplant recipients and those with conditions that give them an equally reduced ability to fight infections and other diseases. A third dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines may increase protection in this vulnerable population, according to data the FDA evaluated.

In recent weeks, doctors, scientists, government officials, and pharmaceutical companies have been debating whether or not additional COVID-19 shots—or boosters—should be recommended to offer continued protection against the virus. The conversation is gaining urgency as we watch the Delta variant surge among unvaccinated individuals and health officials around the country report low but growing numbers of breakthrough cases in fully vaccinated individuals which, though they tend to be asymptomatic or mild, are of growing concern.

What is a booster, Dr. Shaw?

“The simplest answer is that it’s just another dose of a vaccine you received,” Dr. Shaw explains. “The concept is to prolong protective immunity, particularly if there is evidence that protection is waning after a period of time.”

Most children receive routine vaccinations, including boosters, for illnesses such as chickenpox, tetanus, diphtheria, mumps, measles, and rubella—to name a few. “These vaccine series, as we call them, are recommended because you need the extra doses to get longer lasting protective immunity,” Dr. Shaw says.

Will You Need A Booste Shot?

Our safety? As we call them? You need the extra doses?

Either they both have a mouse in their pocket or are Thinking for a Group of some kind...

Watch out that Schrodinger's kitty doesn't get them.
 
Old 08-15-2021, 08:24 AM   #212
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The downside of these booster shots is that the rich countries are buying back vaccinations from the Covax setup. Poor countries often don't qualify because they don't have a distribution plan in place. So richer places get their third shot while the poorer haven't got their first.

To add to the woes of impoverished places, India has halted exports of Covid vaccine from what is the world's biggest vaccine factory to cope with their own Covid plague.
 
Old 08-15-2021, 10:28 AM   #213
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Old 08-15-2021, 10:47 AM   #214
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That's not a minor point, because it shows that the drug that causes horrible birth defects if used by pregnant women, was indeed meant to be used specifically by pregnant women.

There's a reason drugs have to go through rigorous testing that takes years. We know what can and probably will happen if the rules are not strictly adhered to.

We've completely thrown caution to the wind when it comes to the mRNA vaccines. So far it looks like we got lucky with the ones developed for SARS-CoV-2.
Correction: SARS vaccination research is was 20 years old, because all of the vaccination research, testing, and trails that applies to SARS also applies to SARS2. If you need citations, I can provide the links, but a search using google, duckduckgo, or bing should turn up dozens for you.
 
Old 08-15-2021, 10:51 AM   #215
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Masks are pointless. Your actual chances of even encountering COVID are extremely tiny because you must be in close proximity to a sick person. The widely-touted notion of "asymptomatic carriers" is false. No one has ever caught a cold (another corona/rhino virus) from someone who didn't have one. Your body rids itself of many things by exhaling them, and with a mask on you instead re-breathe them.

(By the way, you're now being told that "the unvaccinated carry COVID" because the tests are run through more than twice as many cycles – hence, false positives – for the unvaxed versus the vaxed. There is no explanation why, other than the obvious.)

On the very first sign of "what might be symptoms," whether it's COVID or just a cold or flu, immediately start prophylactic treatments. Suck on Zinc lozenges, and take quercetin or drink green tea or learn to love fresh spinach. These are "ionophores" which will help the zinc get to where it needs to go, and it is known how zinc disrupts the viral replication process. You can stop a cold dead in its tracks in this way.

All the other things that mamma told you also apply: wash your hands with soap and water (not sanitizers), drink plenty of fluids, and while you are sick, stay home. Don't go out in public. If you're a hairstylist, stay home from work until you get well. And, the odds are overwhelmingly high that you will "get well." To anyone with a normally functioning immune system, COVID is simply not that dangerous.
Citations needed.
All of the studies I have read show that a significant number of infected cases are either asymptomatic or start out asymptomatic WHILE they are shedding virus.
As for your "not that dangerous" comment, the number of deaths per day, and the increzasing PERCENTAGE of deaths of infected unvaccinated people contracting DELTA, render that contention clearly false.
 
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Here's a citation.

This tiny little country had 2,074 new cases of the Delta Variant yesterday, up from 1100-1300 a few days back. There's a whole lot of finer detail being skipped - % positivity on tests, etc. But our % positivity is up. We do ≅100k tests per week

The statement that 'anyone with a strong immune system will get over it' is fallacious. I was relatively healthy until I had a stroke, and that affects me adversely. There's Bronchitis in my wife's family, and Asthma in my family, so although neither of us had those complaints, the way we would react to a stress like Covid is difficult to predict. I also was exposed to a lot of noxious chemicals during my working life and they take their own toll on the body's defences.
 
Old 08-15-2021, 12:47 PM   #217
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rich countries are buying back vaccinations from the Covax setup. Poor countries often don't qualify because they don't have a distribution plan in place. So richer places get their third shot while the poorer haven't got their first.
In a global society, this is the real disaster. It will take much longer to get ahead of this disease if mutations can freely develop elsewhere, then come back to haunt "us" "Westerners".
 
Old 08-16-2021, 06:11 AM   #218
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“These vaccine series, as we call them, are recommended because you need the extra doses to get longer lasting protective immunity,” Dr. Shaw says.
Note that he said "extra doses". That's plural.

They tipped their hand.

How many extra doses do they have planned?

How many extra doses are you going to tolerate?

Better yet, how many extra doses will your body tolerate?



Uh-oh, that guy versed in the art of deception is onto us. Damn him, he had to show up...
We better start a shell game to dazzle them with slight of hand.

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COVID-19 vaccines are not interchangeable. If you received a Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, you should get the same product for your second shot.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ines/mRNA.html
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The Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine (INN: tozinameran), sold under the brand name Comirnaty...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer...VID-19_vaccine
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No association has been identified between GBS and the COVID-19 vaccines Comirnaty and Spikevax (previously COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna).
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/co...re-side-effect
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A review of GBS cases has also taken place recently for Vaxzevria (previously COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca). The product information of Vaxzevria now includes a warning on GBS and PRAC continues to closely monitor this issue.
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/co...re-side-effect

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Old 08-16-2021, 07:02 AM   #219
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In a global society, this is the real disaster. It will take much longer to get ahead of this disease if mutations can freely develop elsewhere, then come back to haunt "us" "Westerners".
^ This.

I think most people around the world either can't or won't get vaccinated, so the virus will have plenty of opportunities to mutate. Looks like COVID-19 will be with us for a long time.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 10:51 AM   #220
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We're putting a moratorium on covid threads for the foreseeable future, so this thread is being closed.

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...2/#post6275674

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