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Old 03-03-2016, 07:24 PM   #46
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:25 PM   #47
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Oh, both of them are very definitely "establishment picks."

Out of the more than 360 million citizens in this country, you are being offered a carefully hand-picked slate of exactly two ... not more than three ... names.

The Soviet Politburo in its heyday had far more "turnover" than the United States Senate.
 
Old 03-03-2016, 10:33 PM   #48
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My young (early 20s) son made several observations today that caught my attention. None involved politics at the time. One was that there are people who cannot really debate. They have no clear ideas, just bullet points, and they argue as if the loudest person in the room wins.

That suddenly made the Trump campaign, and followers, make sense to me: they are from that population. He does not have to make sense, be intelligent, know ANYTHING as long as he makes points loudly and puts on a good show.

Have we (the U.S.A.), as a country, fallen so far that the loudest monkey leads the troop?
yep. more time spent (wasted) on Facecrook and farts-gram sites then learning about the system and who candidates are, or who we are voting into congress, or even local govt for that matter. to close that gap we need another generation or two.

govt isnt helping citizens, so why should citizens help the govt?
 
Old 03-03-2016, 11:30 PM   #49
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Fed up!

$tates, ities and most importantly people should have more power than your elected offiial$ but they won't get the schools in order for that! I am cool with lazy people. I just pick jobs where I don't have to rely on them[1] but if the bosses are lazy, let's just call it gridlock and what would be the best job to last at being lazy?
  1. or if I have to bust them out to the boss (right in front of them of course) then it's "snitch" a word for children, inmates and apparently lazy people
https://youtu.be/tR-qQcNT_fY

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Old 03-04-2016, 07:44 AM   #50
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Let us kindly remember that the population of the United States is over 360 million people.

The US Senate is 100 people. The House, about 550. The Court, seven six. The President, one.

The entire "US Government" sits in one moderately sized room each year to hear the POTUS give a "State of the Union" speech.

Do the math: these people are vastly outnumbered, and they cannot impose their will upon millions of people. Nor do they. The "tales of national helplessness and hand-wringing" spewed by the Press are nothing more than propaganda, and should be taken as such.

It is quite obvious that the US is at another turning-point, as is the "Two (count' em ... Two) Party System, Inc." which ruled the country for about the last sixty years. "TPS, Inc." has lost its way and has squandered the wealth of a nation. I believe that its power is waning, and that one of the key linchpins of its hold on power will soon be removed: public officials, including judges and justices and even members of "the fourth branch," will no longer have unlimited terms of office. They will be made to live in fear of, "You're Fired!" (But, not as The Donald would have it ...)

It will change everything when these people are made to realize that they do "serve at the pleasure of the people." That they can be drummed out of Washington, DC at a moment's notice, simply because enough people "just don't like them anymore."

Our English friends remind us from time to time that they can throw out their Parliament and replace it within a few weeks – and that they have done so before.

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Our English friends remind us from time to time that they can throw out their Parliament and replace it within a few weeks – and that they have done so before.
although they can do this, not exactly sure its real benefits. turnover on a frequent basis is typically bad, costs more, and does not move things fwd. big problems cannot be solved in a 4yr term, hence why all of their "i can fix it, we'll fix that" spew is nothing but BS in my book. if Trump wins i would like him to work on three(four) things and three(four) things only.

1) bring jobs back to the US, heavily tax US companies who manufacture overseas. this does not hurt companies, Apple can still make $10billion/yr profit and not change price of one item
2) secure borders (align intelligent agencies to be more accurate and more efficient)
3) maintain military strength, plan the future accordingly
4) start to unzipper Obummer ACA, keep whats good, ditch the bad <-- healthcare is still in need of a major overhaul

if we can get that in 4yrs i will say Trump moved the US fwd in big ways.
 
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2) secure borders (align intelligent agencies to be more accurate and more efficient)
I wish folks that think and suggest things like this lived on the border like I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk0Uhrkb-Vg
 
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For decades the Republican leadership (committed to corporate privilege and costly empire) encouraged a base of jingoists, protectionists, nativists, and other “politically incorrect” types, whom it then largely took for granted. The leadership wanted their votes, but not their opinions. It never expected those folks to one day embrace a presidential candidate who said aloud whatever they were thinking. So it underestimated Trump and now is in big trouble.-Sheldon Richman

I have talked to people that can not stand Donald Trump but they hope that he becomes our next president and completely destroys our present " entrenched government "!!
 
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Plus, look how well border$ (and "beliefs"\opinions) are working elsewhere?

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Old 03-04-2016, 12:07 PM   #55
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I say we rename them all to this: 38.8833 N, 77.0167 W and 46.8333 N, 8.3333 E and so on...
 
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I wonder if the Russian president will someday say to us ... "Mr. President, tear down that wall!!"
 
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Anything is possible!!
 
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Getting Trump in would only be one step back aren't we supposed to go two? I vote impeachment for it would save lives! Maybe his and mil* or billions? (Go ahead,) I did not make the gun laws or give teens felonies for pot because I know there to smart for my good!
 
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Vote yes or no not he or she or even they, break the broken system!

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I accidentally closed my browser there for KDE's fall apart window effect, ya break it!
 
  


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