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Old 11-12-2016, 04:40 PM   #391
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0FZt0coOrw
 
Old 11-12-2016, 05:56 PM   #392
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Too much PC and everyone is tired of it, even the LEFT

Sorry, but this guy is also spot on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep-YbqfkuzM

More and more now, I am kinda glad that Trump won. SJWs deserved this. Way to go PC-culture. They did this to themselves.

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Bill Maher on PC/SJWs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzc8glS2r_o

Even he warned us, and he is on the left. Kinda tells you something doesn't it? There is no debate, it is their way, you are wrong; and now this was the result, thank you SJWs

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Sorry just a few more examples from Bill Maher:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipu0ifyC-Xc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFeDFva6tcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luhSVN5mgNY (skip to 2:20)

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Old 11-12-2016, 08:01 PM   #393
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Not just bullying , but masking language - euphemisms

Well I think I pretty much made my point about PC - but sorry just one more from the one and only - George Carlin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkhUivqzWv0

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Old 11-14-2016, 06:32 AM   #394
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Gloating does not become "U.S." Neither does rioting.

The election is over. Somebody won. Now, that somebody has to (very quickly) learn how to govern.

Throughout the election that (on both sides ...) pandered openly to people's fears and biases, I openly wondered if people understood that "the President, by him/herself, cannot do this-or-that." Then, I realized that the candidates competitors really didn't care: their only objective was to "win the game," no matter how they did it. The voters "learned" almost nothing about them, and never got the chance to "ask" let alone to "discuss," but they heard everything that someone thought calculated that "they wanted to hear," and in the most vitriolic of terms.

This was the election of (Billy Joel's) Angry Young Man.

I think that people are right now mostly reacting to the continued expectation of "vitriolic hyperbole." But, that's over. Now, a candidate has got the job.

As none other than George Washington observed, the President has absolute power over the military, but no power over the Congress at all. In all his life, DT has never been in any such situation. He's gonna have a baptism-by-fire experience, and a whole lot of people are going to be initially very unhappy at him.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 07:34 AM   #395
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I agree with John Cleese.

A Letter To the US from John Cleese
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To the citizens of the United States of America, in light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II resumes monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy.

Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Theresa May, MP for the 97.8% of you who have, until now, been unaware there's a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America. Congress and the Senate are disbanded. A questionnaire circulated next year will determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid your transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. Look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Check "aluminium" in the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you pronounce it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour'. Likewise you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary." Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed." There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you should not have chat shows.

2. There is no such thing as "US English." We'll let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u'.

3. You should learn to distinguish English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). Scottish dramas such as 'Taggart' will no longer be broadcast with subtitles.You must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon." If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1.

5. You should stop playing American "football." There's only one kind of football. What you call American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.1% of you aware there is a world outside your borders may have noticed no one else plays "American" football. You should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every two seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies) You should stop playing baseball. It's not reasonable to host event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders," which is baseball without fancy team stripe, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

6. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns, or anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because you are not sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you need a permit to carry a vegetable peeler.

7. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday. It will be called "Indecisive Day."

8. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left. At the same time, you will go metric without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

9. Learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't French, they're Belgian though 97.8% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Potato chips are properly called "crisps." Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat.

10. The cold tasteless stuff you call beer is actually lager. Only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer." Substances once known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine," except for the product of the American Budweiser company which will be called "Weak Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine." This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

11. The UK will harmonise petrol prices (or "Gasoline," as you will be permitted to keep calling it) for those of the former USA, adopting UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon, get used to it).

12. Learn to resolve personal issues without guns, lawyers or therapists. That you need many lawyers and therapists shows you're not adult enough to be independent. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

13. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

14. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your co-operation.
http://cogink.com/cleese/
 
Old 11-14-2016, 08:27 AM   #396
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This is the part I really can't get my mind around. Political analysts here are saying that Trump scored the anti-establishment vote. If that's the case why didn't the nonDemoPublican candidates get a significant vote? Really doesn't make sense to me.
The reality is that the other contenders don't stand a chance. If voting were simply about voting for the candidate who you believe best represents you or where you live, then it would be very different. Unfortunately voting is heavily manipulated by the media and the majority of people won't vote for one of the smaller parties because it's considered a "wasted vote". It's a vicious circle and it's why the US effectively has a choice between two and only two.

So people voted for Clinton because they were afraid of getting Trump and vice versa...

I can see the problem, many can, but seemingly the people who matter cannot. Put simply there needs to be more checks and balances on these campaigns, how much is allowed to be spent, who funds them, exactly what is allowed and a clear line on what is allowed to be said about other candidates.

At present you have this multi-million dollar media circus, where the main contenders are some of the richest people - who slander each other horribly in front of the camera and in press, then once it's all over - shake hands / congratulate each other. Are these the kind of people which the average person wants leading their country?
 
Old 11-14-2016, 08:40 AM   #397
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I agree with John Cleese.
LOL. Of course. Being from a a area the size of rhode island.

Being from Texas. Which requires long distance driving to go buy groceries.
I don't agree one bit.

But I love John Cleese non the less.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 08:41 AM   #398
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If Sanders had been on the ballot, he would probably have won. He would have kept the ethnic vote while picking up a lot of the angry white working class vote that, in the event, went to Trump. The reason they railroaded him off the ballot was not really that they thought Democratic voters wouldn't buy him; it was because the party machine didn't want him.

Mind you, the Republican party machine didn't want Trump either. But they couldn't make up their minds whom they did want. Trump got the nomination because the opposition to him was fractured. Sanders lost because he only had one opponent and she was the one the party barons preferred.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 08:55 AM   #399
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Bless him, Bernie Sanders is an old man. Like it or not, nearing the end of his life. Let him remain in the Senate, and/or let him write his memoirs and continue to be what he is: a well-respected statesman.

Bernie is one of those people who I think serves the United States much better in the Senate, than he ever would in the Oval Office. I think that he has found the place that is most naturally suited for him, and he continues to be a leader in the Senate. Especially in the Senate, "we need that."

I honestly think that voters simply "voted for change," and they grabbed onto The Apprentice. In that light, neither Clinton nor Sanders stood a chance, because both of them necessarily represented what voters were determined to change from.

But now, the Election is over, and we have a Country to run.

Going forward, Trump is going to confront the fact that the US President is not a King. (And, almost everywhere in the world, "a monarch" is not what s/he used to be, anyway.) He needs to tone-down his "rabid" supporters and his "rabid" opponents because, for at least the next four years, there is only one new objective: "To Do the Job."

Significantly, the US system of government hinges primarily upon The Supreme Council of Lawgivers the Congress. The President cannot create law: he can only sign them. We've already decided that he can't even have a "line-item veto." The President must lead by persuasion ... and yet, he must also be an executive.

IMHO, our last several Presidents didn't have a clue how to be an executive leader. (Even in their role as supreme leader of the military, they were instead content to be led.) I'm pretty sure that DT knows how to be an executive, and he certainly has a strong clue of how business works (and therefore, of what is wrong with it). But the "bombastic" approach that he used in his campaign, and in all of his public performances up until this time, will not work henceforth. This is no longer "community theater." This is: Broadway, and, "it's showtime."

Personally, I think that DT will rise to the occasion very quickly, and that he will be seen as a memorable President. He will be unfortunately start by "being smacked in the face with a hot skillet," partly because of the expectations that he set during his campaign and the way that he ran that campaign, but also partly because of the tumultuous times left behind by "post-Reagan" years and the accompanying schools of thought and policy. But I think I have an idea of what he's really made of . . . He was serious, all along.

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Old 11-14-2016, 09:27 AM   #400
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I'd vote Jed Clampett!
 
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I suspect the USA is going to get up close and personal with the true meaning of the Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times". It will be interesting and comedians will love it. I hope Trump "grows into the mantle" but that remains to be seen since he is not used to limited power, has limited knowledge of Global Politics, unused to conflicting advisors, and can't rely on "great deals'. Civics 101 begins January 20.
 
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I honestly think that voters simply "voted for change," and they grabbed onto The Apprentice. In that light, neither Clinton nor Sanders stood a chance, because both of them necessarily represented what voters were determined to change from.
IMHO, your confusing change with anger (towards the establishment).
 
Old 11-14-2016, 06:24 PM   #403
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I'm sure that some people voted "in anger," and most-unfortunately both(!) candidates shamelessly pandered to that anger without really offering any solutions, much less any real discussion. But, IMHO, the motivation for that anger was the lack of change. For about thirty-five years.

When Ronald Reagan first took office and "Reaganomics" first became a buzzword, I knew that there would be trouble. But I never dreamed of the dystopian stupidity that would grip the country for the next thirty-six years. I knew from The Parable of the Prodigal Son that the situation would eventually turn itself around, but I despaired how long it would take and how bad it would get. "2016" turned out to be the pivotal year ... twice. First, Britain. Now, the United States. (I do not intend for this comparison to be made too-strictly ...)

I think that this just might be the first time that the Americans elected a CEO who was a CEO, and who has zero professional political or military experience.

"The angry young (wo)men" are simply going to have to get a grip, and get control of their anger, and turn it into change. The wave of change has been started, but waves can be dangerous if not directed and controlled.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 07:19 PM   #404
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T28pzdHaPkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54CJSC79vYc

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Old 11-14-2016, 07:46 PM   #405
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A write up about why the rust belt voters turned on their Dem's was about jobs.

Trump shamed Ford into building one car model in USA that had been scheduled to be built in Mexico. He claims to be for a tariff on Mexican built cars. If you and your family had been off work for the last decade because of NAFTA then you might be blaming Bill Clinton for what one candidate phrased "a giant sucking sound". (no relation to Bill's other scandals) I watched for too long how those in Detroit claimed the Dems would help them and gave their votes away to every Tom Dick and Harry that came along only to get screwed. I don't blame them for voting their pocketbooks.


Those that are chanting Trump is for violence are in the streets shooting people and calling for rape. Guess they don't have real jobs that keep them off the streets.

Saying all this I asked a 90 year old lady this question. Have you ever been better or worse off because of a president? She couldn't think of any that really changed her life.

For me, my father was laid off in the 60's because of a recession during Kennedy, had inflation under Reagan (who outspent the USSR into oblivion) and finally got some $350 from Bush.

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