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Old 07-30-2016, 03:48 PM   #166
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Here in New York City the " democratic machine " did everything it could do to make sure that Hillary won the primary election; including wiping out huge chunks of democratic voters!! I do not know about the rest of the United States; but here, many Sanders supporters have no intention of voting for Hillary if they vote at all in November!! The wikileaks DNC email revelations showing that the fix was indeed way in for Hillary Clinton is going to cost her a lot of votes!! Those votes might go to Jill Stein or even Gary Johnson and perhaps some even to Donald Trump; but from the indications that I am hearing, lots of Democratic voters now feel that it should be " anybody but Hillary " for the next United States president!!
 
Old 07-30-2016, 05:53 PM   #167
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Here in New York City the " democratic machine " did everything it could do to make sure that Hillary won the primary election; including wiping out huge chunks of democratic voters!! I do not know about the rest of the United States; but here, many Sanders supporters have no intention of voting for Hillary if they vote at all in November!! The wikileaks DNC email revelations showing that the fix was indeed way in for Hillary Clinton is going to cost her a lot of votes!! Those votes might go to Jill Stein or even Gary Johnson and perhaps some even to Donald Trump; but from the indications that I am hearing, lots of Democratic voters now feel that it should be " anybody but Hillary " for the next United States president!!
Either they will vote for the Green Party, or other independent party, or dare I say some WILL actually vote for Trump. As far as Shillery is concerned also, she is expecting to win the women vote, which she won't either. I expected dirty tricks mostly from the republicans, but the fact that you see this on the dems. side is just stomach churning. Then again I am naive to think otherwise.

It is pretty bad when Shillery is actually making Trump look good with her own antics. I heard that they barred Sanders supporters stating there was no more seats, yet people inside were posting on Facebook and such showing the many empty seats available.

Either way, whether it is Shillery or Chump I expect nothing more than a sh*tstorm at the end of it all. Jeez, this country is pathetic!
 
Old 07-30-2016, 07:51 PM   #168
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I'm wondering just how many Bernie Sanders supporters are going to vote for Donald Trump just to get back at the underhanded way that Hillary Clinton was " handed " the democratic nomination??
Before the leak, it was around 9 percent. As far as I know, there have not yet been polls to show how much it's gone up.

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Old 07-30-2016, 08:15 PM   #169
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I expect the " powers that be " will have Gary Johnson, Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump at the televised debate events and purposely leave out Jill Stein so that she won't make Hillary look bad!! What a truly sad state of affairs the people of these United States finds themselves in!!
 
Old 07-30-2016, 09:44 PM   #170
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I'm not voting this year because this election season sucks. We have Trump who is a 70 year old toddler with temper tantrums, insults people and makes fun of people with disabilities AND saturates twitter with his whining grievances.

As for Hillary, I don't know much about her except for infamous nickname crooked Hillary and the recent email scandal. But then again no politician is all perfect and honest. There are some politicians who have done worse than she has. She just got caught.

If Hillary wins, I guess I can live with that. If Trumps wins and I hope not, I hope he becomes impeached ASAP.

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Old 08-11-2016, 05:21 PM   #171
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I liked this. It made me grin.

http://postmyimage.com/img2/992_wpna...0f953b9daf.gif
 
Old 08-12-2016, 01:36 AM   #172
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I expected dirty tricks mostly from the republicans, but the fact that you see this on the dems. side is just stomach churning. Then again I am naive to think otherwise.
It was the Democrats who gave us the words "Tammany Hall" and "Gerrymander"
 
Old 08-12-2016, 07:00 AM   #173
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Dear Establishment pundits, flacks, hacks, sycophants, apparatchiks, toadies, lackeys, functionaries, leeches and apologists: the more you label Trump as "singularly inappropriate," the more attractive he becomes to the 81% who've been left behind by the financialized-globalized-neofeudal order that has so greatly enhanced your own wealth, influence and power.-Charles Hugh Smith
 
Old 08-12-2016, 07:17 AM   #174
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Dear Establishment pundits, flacks, hacks, sycophants, apparatchiks, toadies, lackeys, functionaries, leeches and apologists: the more you label Trump as "singularly inappropriate," the more attractive he becomes to the 81% who've been left behind by the financialized-globalized-neofeudal order that has so greatly enhanced your own wealth, influence and power.-Charles Hugh Smith
So... you are wanting to pretend that Trump is not part of the "financialized-globalized-neofeudal order"? Dream on...
 
Old 08-12-2016, 08:52 AM   #175
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Dear Establishment pundits, flacks, hacks, sycophants, apparatchiks, toadies, lackeys, functionaries, leeches and apologists: the more you label Trump as "singularly inappropriate," the more attractive he becomes to the 81% who've been left behind by the financialized-globalized-neofeudal order that has so greatly enhanced your own wealth, influence and power.-Charles Hugh Smith
Uhm, that 81% estimate is obviously way too high.

Here's one way I know:

Only 9% of America Chose Trump and Clinton as the Nominees

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Old 08-12-2016, 09:09 AM   #176
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Arrow capitalism trumps all

"If it ain't broke don't" be blind. In a 1,000 years what has voting done for the majority? I have and will only ever vote on policies not popularity\people!

I'm all for the ability to vote people out of government but we don't vote people into most jobs. They get hired\fired to fill needs and by logic. Ask yourself why an eighteen year old can vote and\or kill but not be president*? "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." —Emma Goldman

If playing in a broken system makes you feel better by all means, sheep on... (just a red and blue world? ) Do you live on a planet or a continent? "It is not easy to see how the more extreme forms of nationalism can long survive when we have seen the Earth in its true perspective as a single small globe against the stars."
-Arthur C. Clarke

http://classicalwisdom.com/plato-and...-of-democracy/

Add: as if they were wakeable: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wake_up_sheeple.png

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Old 08-12-2016, 12:03 PM   #177
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In my very humble opinion; I do not think that whoever the next president of the United States is, is going to really make any difference!! Chaos is coming!!
 
Old 08-18-2016, 03:50 PM   #178
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I had to laugh at this!!

I had to laugh at this!!
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Old 08-18-2016, 05:35 PM   #179
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Actually, it is a very new(!) notion that "there should be only two candidates." (That there should be "primary elections" at all.)

For many decades, an entity that I refer to as "The Two-Party SystemŽ, Incorporated," has ruled American politics ... to the point that it now believes that it has some "divine right" to do so. It gained power by presenting a "(non-)choice" of exactly two alternatives, both of which it controlled.

And, make no mistake about it, "it is doing so yet again."
  • Behind "door number one," we have: the radical's radical." Devised to be "a lightning-rod for your discontent, whoever you might be." The parties "behind door number two" will rail against this person as no other candidate has done, because, "desperate times call for desperate measures." We want to ensure, above all else, that (if you vote at all ...) you will pick (either) one of "our two doors!"
  • Behind "door number two," we have: "the conservative's conservative." If you love milk-and-cookies, this is the gal for you.

What do they fear? The fact that they do not, in fact, control the entire slate of qualified candidates. There are two more.

They've got billions of dollars to spend, and they'll cheerfully spend it to persuade you ... either (a) not to get out of your easy-chair and vote, or (b) to convince you that you have only (their) two "reasonable" choices. That any other vote would be: "wasted ... so, why bother? ... wonder what's on the telly tonight?"

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Old 08-18-2016, 06:22 PM   #180
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(a) won't work anyway (ie if you vote,) it's not called logic! If all you had was a sarded razer blade, should you still shave? Trump, yes...

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