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Old 05-09-2016, 09:40 AM   #136
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I somehow began to like Donald Trump as an enfant terrible of american politics.

But when I read the slogans

America first.
Make America great again.

Then I think that it's sickening stupidity. But then again democracy is power to the people. And the people are stupid of course. I think he will be a worthy president of the USA.
 
Old 05-09-2016, 03:22 PM   #137
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:11 PM   #138
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Some in the media are saying that this will be the nastiest presidential election in United States history!! They may be right if it is a contest between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump!! However, and of course I could be very wrong about this, I believe that Bernie Sanders will end up being the democratic nominee because Hillary Clinton is indicted or just flames out!! The " hostile tension in the air " on Staten Island is already so thick you can almost walk on it!!
Oh, I was hoping it would be more like a powder keg, just one spark and BOOM
 
Old 05-09-2016, 09:16 PM   #139
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I hope that this presidential election does not ignite a civil war within the United States!! Human frustration can turn very violent and violence does not bow to rational logic!!
Wellll.... I hope it is within the party and it is looking like it already. The party establishment is beyond themselves now because they can't believe someone has come this far that is out of their reach of control , and again I alluded to earlier in this thread, would probably go as far as violating the constitution to stay in power.

Whether you like Trump or not - if the 'will' of the people is this strong, then Trump will probably be right if somehow he is prevented , I wouldn't be surprised if you would see mass rioting and worse.

After all now they are just blatantly contradicting themselves on media outlets and just outright lying and no longer toning down their ignorance. I would not be surprised if this would even be the last of a republican party. It won't matter if they jump as an 'independent' because Romney, Ryan, and all the others are still the establishment with a different label.
 
Old 05-10-2016, 02:39 AM   #140
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One thing is very certain-this presidential election is going to shake up the United States for better or for worse!!
 
Old 05-10-2016, 10:45 AM   #141
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Well, "it has been a long time building-up," and if The Donald is simply the one clever enough to realize it and to take advantage of it, The Two-Party System, Inc. has finally gotten what it deserved.

The people who are in power right now are the Cold War generation, and they are also the people who devastated many of the social and financial structures that they, themselves, had grown up with. (You can pretty much finger "where it started" with the presidency of Ronald Reagan, but both the Red and the Blue divisions of The Two Party System, Inc. pursued the same destructive courses since that time.)

But "TPS, Inc." will not yield power quite yet. The entire voting system throughout the United States is now "paperless," and un-auditable. The appointed colorless "candidate (sic)" will "win" by a plausible margin and then be "re-elected" four years later as the swath of corruption and destruction continues.

There's an important human lesson to be learned from the Parable of the Prodigal Son: that the son did not stop until there was literally nowhere farther down for him to go. It took a long time for "Happy Days Are Here Again" to be replaced by "Brother, Can You Spare A Dime?"
 
Old 05-10-2016, 12:58 PM   #142
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I will just go camping for the next 4-8* years!
 
Old 05-14-2016, 10:55 AM   #143
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Both George Wallace and Donald Trump are part of a long national history of scapegoating minorities: from the Irish, Catholics, Asians, Eastern European immigrants and Jews to Muslims and Latino immigrants. During times of insecurity, a sizable minority of Americans has been drawn to forceful figures who confidently promise the destruction of all enemies, real and imagined, allowing Americans to return to a past that never existed.-Dan T. Carter
 
Old 05-14-2016, 11:22 AM   #144
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Both George Wallace and Donald Trump are part of a long national history of scapegoating minorities:
Why do you need to see everything so negativ and anti?

Scapegoating has the huge benefit of strenthening the sense of community in any group. In fact it is so beneficial. It's like in every group of animals.

One could almost be thankful to the scapegoats for the benefit (now is that silly?). So Americans will be united better and think higher of themselves. Probably if each people or majority thinks higher of itself than of other people and minorities (as usual) it's even somehow beneficial to the world.

I don't how, but it can probably be read in some book by Konrad Lorenz. He knew more than anyone about socilisation in mammals. In fact he was so good, he was already very successful very early in his life (during the 3rd Reich). Whatever, interesting guy.

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Old 05-14-2016, 04:36 PM   #145
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Why do you need to see everything so negativ and anti?

Scapegoating has the huge benefit of strenthening the sense of community in any group. In fact it is so beneficial. It's like in every group of animals.

One could almost be thankful to the scapegoats for the benefit (now is that silly?). So Americans will be united better and think higher of themselves. Probably if each people or majority thinks higher of itself than of other people and minorities (as usual) it's even somehow beneficial to the world.

I don't how, but it can probably be read in some book by Konrad Lorenz. He knew more than anyone about socilisation in mammals. In fact he was so good, he was already very successful very early in his life (during the 3rd Reich). Whatever, interesting guy.
Just because I quote someone does not automatically mean that I have that point of view!! Everyone is entitled to their own opinions; no matter how they arrived at them!! If you have had a sheltered existence you can not fully appreciate it until you have been exposed to some kind of hardship!! One of my many teachers had a saying " What has a front also has a back " which mean that even in " good people " there is bad because that is the true reality of human nature!!
 
Old 05-14-2016, 08:31 PM   #146
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Well, that was a little ironic.

Actually I think these "us and them" cliches are pretty terrible in humanity. Not to talk of daily abundant doses of propaganda and indoctrination everywhere. And whatever other pitfalls of group dynamics.

Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men. I am the last to be equipped with big amount of trustfulness in fellow humans or myself.
 
Old 05-14-2016, 09:30 PM   #147
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Old 05-17-2016, 05:38 PM   #148
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I'm just happy that a white person will be back in the oval office as it should be.
 
Old 05-17-2016, 06:19 PM   #149
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You mean Obama had better gathered cotton in the last years? Do you find it offending that he can read? Or was that ironic too?

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