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fair_is_fair 08-29-2012 11:55 AM

This could be the worst place to ask for health and exercise advice ... ha ha.

I do know something about back pain and exercise will make a world of difference.

Its all about core strength. Build up the core and the rest falls into place. Situps, stretches, and pushups will do a lot for you if done properly. Walking and building up to some running(done properly) will make a new man or woman out of you.

There are loads of websites that will give you descriptions of exercises and stretches that will help your condition.

A physiotherapist helped me overcome an extremely painful injury several years ago by stretches and exercise, when doctors gave up on me.

Remember "moderation".

Aquarius_Girl 08-29-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4762934)
I'll be serious for a moment. Calcium deficiency. Get some multivitamin and mineral tablets.

Thanks for the concern.

History:
For past 5 months I was suffering from back pain, and the important point
is that the back pain occurred only at night when I used to go to sleep!
I used to get cramps, daily. Then finally I went to the orthopedic doctor
who X-rayed my back and confirmed the problem to be the low bone density.

He prescribed the tabled "BON K2". This tablet has worked "magic". The back
pain is all gone now. I am perfectly fine in today's date.

But I am worried that once I stop taking this tablet, the back pain will
re-occur, so I thought of doing some exercise which could increase the
bone density.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 4763081)
*edit- low impact, low back loading exercises are what you want to do to help with back pain- cycling and swimming are the best IMO.

I was thinking of purchasing a fancy cycle, lately. I googled "cycling low
bone density"
, and decided to back off. I haven't verified these claims but
if there is a slightest doubt, I think I should back off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 4763081)
You wont, unless you do hours of training every day. Even if your were male, you'd probably also need some steroids to look like Hulk Hogan-

That's quite a relief. I had googled w.r.t the push-ups exercise, and found
majority of people talking about 50-100 pushups a day. They claimed of gaining
muscular body within 3 months. That scared me, so I thought of confirming.
Currently I can do only 21 pushups in the sets of 3. I can't even touch the
ground right now (when I bow down during pushups), but then I think it depends
on the strength, the person currently has!

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 4763081)
High weight, low repetitions- builds 'bulky' muscle. (eg lifting 50KG x 5)
Low weight, high repetitions- builds 'dense' muscle. (eg lifting 5KG x 50)

Eh? Are weights to be used? Wow - didn't know that. Will consult the doctor
about the weights and the sore back combination. Besides, I don't go to gym.
What kind of weights did you use at home?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 4763081)
Do more exercise, and you'll need more food.......Get used to eating more, then when you stop exercising your appetite is still the same as it was when you were doing the exercise.

That's a very good news for me. My weight has been 52 KG (at height 5 foot 5
inches) for past 7 years!! Weight gaining seems to be an impossible task for
me. But then, my appetite has never been good too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy3105 (Post 4763347)
Push ups will only work one set of muscles, you need to do a range or different exercises to utilise all of your muscles
........You need to be careful to only do as much as YOU can currently manage, you want to exercise, NOT hurt yourself. The vast majority of people who have to stop coming to the gym do so because they have overdone it.

Indeed, will keep this in mind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy3105 (Post 4763347)
Swimming is a very good place to start. Its low impact on joints unlike running, it works your whole body, it builds cardio vascular fitness as well as muscle, and if you are currently suffering from back pain it allows exercise while supporting your body weight.

That's expensive, and secondly swimming pools aren't easily found where I live. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnanthaP (Post 4764331)
As per your earlier post, its probably the scooter driving that you do.

That scooter drove me crazy!
Delhi monsoons! Water filled up on roads up to knee level, and then pits to
fall in! I have currently deserted the scooter. I used to become "extremely"
tired after the daily 2 hours scooter drive. I am feeling better now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 4767202)
I remember that little word-war was over iodine, not salt......

Of course, my fault, that non-so-little word war was on "iodine", not salt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anomie (Post 4765565)
Anisha (a chick) is not going to bulk out into a bodybuilder by doing pushups.

Thanks for the concern.
I haven't been called a "chick" before. Don't know whether to get delighted or
appalled on this reference. :) :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fair_is_fair (Post 4767535)
This could be the worst place to ask for health and exercise advice ... ha ha.

For the nth time - I am *not* under any impression that LQers are Gods or doctors.
Don't you ever talk to your friends about anything else than computers!

konsolebox 08-30-2012 01:58 AM

Sometimes it's just too much radiation from the monitor that causes Calcium deficiency. I haven't studied this so please don't ask me for a proof :)

Anyway if you're still using a CRT monitor, you'd better replace it with an LCD soon.

Also, I think too much sitting in front of the computer and less standing/walking could also be a factor. Well I'm not really the one to say these things but just in case the information or idea would also help you :)

fair_is_fair 08-30-2012 06:56 PM

"For the nth time - I am *not* under any impression that LQers are Gods or doctors.
Don't you ever talk to your friends about anything else than computers!"

I was making a joke, hence the "ha ha". Everyone has this stereotype about computer nerds being skinny little people with big glasses.

nobuntu 08-31-2012 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fair_is_fair (Post 4767535)
This could be the worst place to ask for health and exercise advice

It is. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by fair_is_fair (Post 4768681)
Everyone has this stereotype about computer nerds being skinny little people with big glasses.

That describes me perfectly. SKINNY GEEKS UNITE!

baldy3105 08-31-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntubski (Post 4764318)
I guess the question is more about the exercise than the muscle tissue. What do you think about the claim that more than 20 reps won't increase muscle size? I suppose the explanation would be that such low intensity exercise doesn't cause muscle damage?

Like so many things it isn't either/or. More reps with less weight tends to produce improvements in stamina more than size, you will still get some size increase tho. More weight less reps tends towards more size. More weight more reps tends to be self limiting as you tend to end up injuring yourself. Weight training depends on a controlled damage/repair cycle. Too much damage is not helpful.

And it differs per person. A training buddy of mine is up the gym 6 days a week, and he's not that much stronger than me. Another mate who plays rugby doesn't weight train at all but is just naturally nearly as strong as me, and I weight train sporadically - twice a week when I'm focusing on it.

Aquarius_Girl 08-31-2012 11:06 PM

Besides, what kind of surface do you prefer for these pushups?
I do them on cemented floor and my hands hurt!
I tried placing towel under my hands but the towel kept slowly slipping!

:mad:

konsolebox 08-31-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul (Post 4769674)
Besides, what kind of surface do you prefer for these pushups?
I do them on cemented floor and my hands hurt!
I tried placing towel under my hands but the towel kept slowly slipping!

:mad:

If you're really serious about push-ups, you could start with higher angles first just like against chairs or tables.

Anyway, personally I dislike pushups. Building muscles tend to give you strength but it slows you down. All I care about is SPEED, and strength is nothing (boring).

Reminds me of gamers who rely on their character's strength and defense instead of the ability to manipulate skills with their own gaming skills.

Aquarius_Girl 08-31-2012 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by konsolebox (Post 4769685)
Building muscles tend to give you strength but it slows you down.

What makes you say that? Has this been proved?
Just curious to know..

konsolebox 08-31-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul (Post 4769690)
What makes you say that? Has this been proved?
Just curious to know..

Ahh.. Not always, but it happens. I haven't proven it. Just my intuition or common sense, and some examples.

baldy3105 09-02-2012 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by konsolebox (Post 4769692)
Ahh.. Not always, but it happens. I haven't proven it. Just my intuition or common sense, and some examples.

Yeah because Usain Bolt's muscles are purely for show.......

jefro 09-02-2012 04:23 PM

Get a yoga mat maybe.

konsolebox 09-02-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy3105 (Post 4770813)
Yeah because Usain Bolt's muscles are purely for show.......

Obvious. But you don't get the point. Some athletes are pretty fast by their default composition, but some when they try to bulk up becomes slower, or loses stamina, especially by training the way of strength like push-ups and barbells, etc.

cascade9 09-09-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul (Post 4767937)
For past 5 months I was suffering from back pain, and the important point
is that the back pain occurred only at night when I used to go to sleep!
I used to get cramps, daily. Then finally I went to the orthopedic doctor
who X-rayed my back and confirmed the problem to be the low bone density.

He prescribed the tabled "BON K2". This tablet has worked "magic". The back
pain is all gone now. I am perfectly fine in today's date.

Dear gawds, a synthetic vitamin D analog.

Good to hear its helped, though IMO if you need a synthetic vitamin D analog there is quite likely to be something more serious happening.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul (Post 4767937)
But I am worried that once I stop taking this tablet, the back pain will
re-occur, so I thought of doing some exercise which could increase the
bone density.

I was thinking of purchasing a fancy cycle, lately. I googled "cycling low
bone density"
, and decided to back off. I haven't verified these claims but
if there is a slightest doubt, I think I should back off.

Dont believe google search results without looking into things a bit deeper than that...

You dont need, or possibly even want a 'fancy' bike. Its just a tool, not a fashion statement...and nicer bikes are always more prone to being stollen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul (Post 4767937)
That's quite a relief. I had googled w.r.t the push-ups exercise, and found
majority of people talking about 50-100 pushups a day. They claimed of gaining
muscular body within 3 months. That scared me, so I thought of confirming.
Currently I can do only 21 pushups in the sets of 3. I can't even touch the
ground right now (when I bow down during pushups), but then I think it depends
on the strength, the person currently has!

When you get the hang of normal pushups, try hindu pushups. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul (Post 4767937)
Eh? Are weights to be used? Wow - didn't know that. Will consult the doctor
about the weights and the sore back combination. Besides, I don't go to gym.
What kind of weights did you use at home?

You can use weights when doing pushups....I wouldnt recommend it. Its unnecessary. Leaving out complex maths that dont matter much, if you weight 52KG than when you do a pushup you are lifting 52KG.

I only brought up weights in reply to ntubski.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul (Post 4767937)
That's a very good news for me. My weight has been 52 KG (at height 5 foot 5
inches) for past 7 years!! Weight gaining seems to be an impossible task for
me. But then, my appetite has never been good too.

Err...no, its not really good news. IMO anyway.

You're in the normal weight range. Maybe the low end of normal, but that is healthier than being heavier.

The grass is always greener on the other side, and gaining weight is generally a lot easier than losing it.

Desdd57 03-03-2013 12:11 PM

Anisha wow - 5'5" - 52kg - big brown eyes - and now recently a chick as well, You sound like the perfect girl. :) :) Who needs pushups?

Best regards old friend - take care

PS Seriously - Walking and Running will also help your bone density, as well as get your heart stronger. Also the feeling of strength and vitality that eventually comes with walking/running - is spectacular.

Like all the rest have intimated - don't overdo it - whatever exercise you take on.


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