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Now, instead of discussing the title, could you please help me in the composition?
I'm not a native speaker but I think that the above sentence might sound a bit too direct. I assume you're talking about a photography forum where, like here, members are volunteers and don't like to be told what to discuss. Perhaps, if you removed the "Now, instead of discussing the title" bit, it would sound more polite.
Having said that, it would be helpful to see your sentence in the context.
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Without contet it's difficult to say but, generally, "could you please" is used when you want somebody to do something straight away or to stress that you really want them to do it like "Could you please stop making that noise!". If you want to ask nicely you should probably use "please could you".
Edit: I agree with sycamorex that starting a sentance with "Now" is a little dirrect. Perhaps "Please could we discuss composition now, instead of the title?", or similar, would be more passive.
Is this a bit off subject. Or am I misunderstanding?
You are inclined to abruptness (which I like for I know any discussion with you is going to be lively and interesting.) This abruptness can come accross as bossiness)
There is a possibility that we shall be going to India (close to New Delhi) for a few months
Take care Anisha - from Des
Last edited by Desdd57; 04-02-2012 at 10:37 AM.
Reason: Spelling
I checked out the link in your signature. There are some very good photos there - but I don't know how to tell which ones are yours.
If the 3 that first show are yours, then I think you have a talent: I suppose different people may see different messages, for example I particularly like the candles - because it reminds me of how finite we are: which in turn helps to face up to reality
Anyway tell me which photos are yours and I'll put my two pence worth in
Last edited by Desdd57; 04-04-2012 at 03:59 PM.
Reason: off subject
That's a cultural thing. In India people are generally helpful to each other. In England and English-derived cultures less so. So in India there is no need to dress up a request for help -- you just directly ask for what you want. In English-derived cultures, help is a "favour" so you are more likely to get help if you ask in a way that acknowledges that. I think that is the root of how the behavioural conventions were established. A typical Indian request for help would be regarded as very disrespectful and rude in an English-derived culture. And, vice versa, a normal request for help in a English-derived culture sounds distastefully obsequious to Indian ears.
That's quite nice, and somewhat "too" polite. But, it does make sense to lower the tone down as much as we can when we are "asking" for help! Thanks.
Perhaps one should write requests in a "too polite" tone - then seek to "abruptise" them a little. Rather than the other way around.
I think that your comment Catkin that it is largely a cultural thing has much merit. Although that will not prevent us from endeavouring to make sure we are polite where possible
Last edited by Desdd57; 04-04-2012 at 04:02 PM.
Reason: proper nouns
A typical Indian request for help would be regarded as very disrespectful and rude in an English-derived culture. And, vice versa, a normal request for help in a English-derived culture sounds distastefully obsequious to Indian ears.
For past few months I have been active on the 1x (writing critiques). I don't prefer to
beat around the bushes and sugar coat statements to make them look soft, and for this I
received an infraction. Mods there said that I was being harsh and rude.
A German Mod there living in India (Tata steel (Jamshedpur)) told me that he didn't
find my critiques too harsh/rude, and I was pleased to hear that till I heard his reasons.
He said that in (Tata steel (Jamshedpur)) all the people are quite rude, and therefore
he's used to rudeness now!!
Well, if he had found some people rude I would have understood it, but if he's finding all
the people rude then perhaps the problem lies somewhere else!
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Originally Posted by Desdd57
Perhaps one should write requests in a "too polite" tone...
Being polite is of course nice and compulsory too, but I don't think there is any
need to be "too" polite. The statement which you suggested in the previous post sounds
as if one is "desperate" to get help. I don't want to sound "desperate".
In that particular case, I think I shouldn't have demanded another answer from him.
He would have answered anyway if he wanted to. After all it is a volunteer forum.
BTW, thanks for the appreciation of the photos (I have only 3 of them, there).
Last edited by TheIndependentAquarius; 04-05-2012 at 11:09 PM.
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