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Old 04-06-2019, 10:18 PM   #46
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It's a claim, I don't think you provided any evidence for or against fact-hood.

I went to a Bernie Sanders rally cause it was just down the block from where I live, and there were illegal immigrants I knew there, and they wanted me to vote for Bernie Sanders.. This is why the Democrats want sanctuary cities, and why they want felons and 16yr olds to vote. Cause they all tend to vote Democrat.. But like anything thing on the internet you can take that with a grain of salt.. But there's a saying that I think is somewhat true "If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain"...


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You can't change the world by fully endorsing either side of a rigged system either. It's "winning" on paper, but in reality it's more like giving in to the status quo.

Great people don't simply give in. These days, people who don't simply give into the status quo are either called "moderate" or "fringe." So tell me what you think "winning" is-- picking the bigger side that tells you what to do? How does that change anything?
In this scenario winning is undoing everything the Obama administration did, and restoring the ideals that this country was founded on... Like not kneeling during the national anthem, or burning the American flag (which only leftists do)... You have to outweigh the pros vs the cons on each side and the way I see it, is that the left has way more cons and are doing way more damage to this country than then those on the right.. With that said the Republicans are pretty much useless as they dont fight back or use the same conniving tactics the democrats do.. That's party cause their absolutly terrified of the media, but also cause their elites who's only concern is their social status among their elitist peers in Washington.

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Old 04-06-2019, 11:39 PM   #47
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What say we start a new topic?

Just do not want to 'pull the rug out from under' you 'speakers' and

just start one 'unilaterally'.

That is the most coherent thought I have had all day.

Getting slammed here with work.Yes.Yes.Sad story indeed.

So.New topic?

Suggestions?
 
Old 04-06-2019, 11:48 PM   #48
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New topic?
Sure, why not? https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...newthread&f=10
 
Old 04-06-2019, 11:56 PM   #49
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Okay.You posted link to make a new topic.

Could you float an idea for a topic if you are prepared to?

The other 'speakers' may not even respond until morning or maybe later than that.

A little 'democracy' here.

'Yeah.That's the ticket!'
 
Old 04-07-2019, 12:17 AM   #50
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Okay.You posted link to make a new topic.
I realise that you want to steer the conversation in a different direction. I'm not trying troll you on that, I'm trying to nudge you into explaining either what you want, or why you want it.

I think that's a reasonable response to basically starting a topic and then saying what seems to be "ok, let's talk about anything else." Could you elaborate? Is there a particular problem you want to solve, or are we just going to try random things until you find it satisfactory? There's a tradition on forums of responding to vague requests with a request to elaborate or explain-- that's the tradition I'm following right now.
 
Old 04-07-2019, 12:32 AM   #51
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To make you feel better I will just be quiet for awhile.

To allay any of your fears that I want to 'steer' anything anywhere.

I am going to go look on CNN to see how president Trump fared in LA speaking to the one

group.

Off topic but that's what I'm up to.

Him closing the border? He backed away from 'the brink' so right now the situation is

inactive.
 
Old 04-07-2019, 08:13 AM   #52
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There are snakeoil moderates who pretend to be these level-headed people you speak of, but their actually leftists and it shows.
wow, that sentence.
everything that is wrong with rhethorics in USA politics.

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You can't change the world by fully endorsing either side of a rigged system either. It's "winning" on paper, but in reality it's more like giving in to the status quo.

Great people don't simply give in. These days, people who don't simply give into the status quo are either called "moderate" or "fringe." So tell me what you think "winning" is-- picking the bigger side that tells you what to do? How does that change anything?
my thoughts precisely.
so often i see those people that are supposed to be the winners, and all i can think is "those poor losers"...
i think they're just barely hanging on with their teeth. that's called winning i guess. throw away the old clothes and get some new ones, because everyone is watching. doesn't matter, the stuff is cheap enough.

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"If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain"...
how old are you?
 
Old 04-07-2019, 08:37 AM   #53
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wow, that sentence.
everything that is wrong with rhethorics in USA politics.
Wow indeed, exactly what I was thinking too. It makes you wonder why on Earth people would want to cross their southern border to enter the US, when that's the sort rhetoric you would have to listen to. It makes me glad not to be an American if that's what people there have to contend with.

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how old are you?
I'm not sure you really want to know the answer to that somehow... I would hope they are just young (as their username suggests) or if their not, then it's a very sad story indeed I would imagine. It certainly would not inspire a lot of hope for them, if nothing else.

I guess if you're neither, you're not human
 
Old 04-07-2019, 09:57 PM   #54
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wow, that sentence.
everything that is wrong with rhethorics in USA politics.
Please explain.. Im certain you have no idea what you're talking about since you not an American... No disrespect though, I know wherever you're from is just different.

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Old 04-09-2019, 05:06 PM   #55
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For those that like to say that President Trump is racist, which is laughable and poorly informed:

Candace Owens TORCHES the Democrat Party in front of House Judiciary Committee!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1H7CL5K4Go

"Two months ago I was in prison and now I am at the White House..."
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv4jeBtAJ_1/

#Latinos4Trump #Blacks4Trump #Gays4Trump #Dems4Trump #Women4Trump #Asians4Trump #Christians4Trump #Hindus4Trump #Women4Trump
https://twitter.com/podobensky/statu...52537749139456

Sheriff Clarke on Trump's meeting with black leaders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV2CQ0sdTj4

Blacks4Trump
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Blacks4Trump

Hispanics for Trump (original twitter page Hispanics4Trump was banned by Twitter, during the conservative purge)
https://twitter.com/HispanicsTrump

Meet some of Donald Trump's Latino supporters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX1oxc-AFMw

Polls: Hispanic Support for President Trump Reaches 50 Percent
https://www.theepochtimes.com/polls-...t_2870164.html


And for those that say there is no problem at the border

Border Patrol Apprehends 92,000 Illegal Immigrants in March
https://www.theepochtimes.com/border...h_2873315.html

Man lives on the border and describes what is happening in his town
https://youtu.be/NX1oxc-AFMw?t=130
 
Old 04-09-2019, 07:20 PM   #56
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Alveda King (Martin Luther King Jr.'s Niece): Outrageous to call Trump 'racist'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_N3vAWed4

Diamond and Silk
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCug...XyHjsxQ/videos

Frank Vick exposes race baiting and lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8a3vdbEmvY

Calling Pres. Trump racist is about as silly as it gets.

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Old 04-10-2019, 04:45 AM   #57
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Calling Pres. Trump racist is about as silly as it gets.
LOL, not when it's true. Because he HAS in fact made more than just one or two racist statements, which = a racist.

If you think I'm going to sit here and watch a stack of videos with Trump supporters saying "he's not a racist", think harder - I'm not. And you not only think those video's somehow "prove" he's not a racist, you can't even admit you are a Trump supporter to begin with. Hardly coming from someone with an "objective/unbiased view".

That's the difference between you and me; I don't support the Democrats anymore than the other side...
 
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LOL, not when it's true. Because he HAS in fact made more than just one or two racist statements, which = a racist.

If you think I'm going to sit here and watch a stack of videos with Trump supporters saying "he's not a racist", think harder - I'm not. And you not only think those video's somehow "prove" he's not a racist, you can't even admit you are a Trump supporter to begin with. Hardly coming from someone with an "objective/unbiased view".

That's the difference between you and me; I don't support the Democrats anymore than the other side...
So you will not watch those videos or read the articles but you will watch and accept the news and what they report when its anti Trump? By the way several of those links are from "main stream, left leaning" news agencies.

And since you do not know me, you can hardly know my political inklings. For the record, I have voted for Democrats, Republicans and Libertarians, so no, I do not fit the narrow box that you want to place me in.

Also in full disclosure I have met Pres. Trump before in the late 90's and he seemed to be a very nice, genuine, no nonsense person.
 
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If you think I'm going to sit here and watch a stack of videos with Trump supporters saying "he's not a racist", think harder - I'm not.
...and the other half of the links seems to be of the type "persons X, Y and Z are also racist, therefore Trump is not."

I have seen that line of argumentation a lot during the 2016 elections. apparently Americans like to fall for that, or why else is this... logical error applied so iberally.
 
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So you will not watch those videos or read the articles but you will watch and accept the news and what they report when its anti Trump? By the way several of those links are from "main stream, left leaning" news agencies.
And here we go again, "you are just believing what that 'left-wing media says'" argument Apparently you didn't read my post #43 - I strongly suggest you do. So that argument isn't going to work either. Should I find a bunch of videos with people saying Trump IS a racist now?? Well no, sorry, I'm not going to go around in circles.

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And since you do not know me, you can hardly know my political inklings.
Yes, I don't know you in person, but your "political inklings" are very, very obvious from your posts alone...

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For the record, I have voted for Democrats, Republicans and Libertarians, so no, I do not fit the narrow box that you want to place me in.
And when did you vote for anyone other than Trump ? 10 years ago, 20 years ago? I'm sure Trump himself has ALSO probably voted for the Democrats before too, in fact, he actually donated $$$ to the Democrats too... did you know that?

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Also in full disclosure I have met Pres. Trump before in the late 90's and he seemed to be a very nice, genuine, no nonsense person.
So I take if you met Jack the ripper and he appeared to be a "nice person" he would no longer be a murderer ? Trump himself is going to sit there and say "I'm a racist, didn't you know" LOL, yeah right, and I'm the pope too...
 
  


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