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Old 09-19-2020, 11:04 PM   #1
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Red face President D. Trump now says vaccine will be available in April 2021 not October 2020


President D. Trump now changed his stance, and insists vaccine will be available in April 2021

Just a little while ago he had claimed it will be available in October ( within the next 40 days )

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/16/trum...n-october.html

but now, he did change his stance, and claims it will be available in April 2021

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachels.../#6e60481336c8

Well he meant well. He just wants everyone to be safe as soon as possible.
 
Old 09-20-2020, 04:08 AM   #2
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... Well he meant well. He just wants everyone to be safe as soon as possible.
Really?

Based on how tens of thousands of healthcare frontline workes lost their lives due to lack of even the simplest ppe and how the pandemic is (not) handled, my conclusion is, that he cares for no-one...
 
Old 09-20-2020, 04:30 AM   #3
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When's the elections....
 
Old 09-20-2020, 05:04 AM   #4
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Well he meant well. He just wants everyone to be safe as soon as possible.
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When's the elections....
Exactly.

But I'm glad common sense prevailed (there must be some people behind him who he didn't fire yet even though they're actually capable of independent thought).
 
Old 09-20-2020, 06:24 AM   #5
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Actually there are MANY problems to surmount before the vaccine is easily available.

The main ones are :
1. The ones being developed presently require to be stored and transmitted to the final distribution point at negative/minus 80 degrees centigrade thats negative/minus 80 degrees farenheit.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/78209959.cms
PLEASE READ IT FULLY, TILL THE END.

2. It require two doses - a month apart. Who will monitor? How to monitor? What about the bulk of the population?

3. Phase III trials are still in progress. Hope that they don't encounter many roadblocks.

4. Thenn (then and only then) will "herd immunity" develop.

5. In one aspect, it is very much like influenza. It can recur.

AP

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Old 09-20-2020, 07:59 AM   #6
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...at negative/minus 80 degrees centigrade thats negative/minus 80 degrees farenheit.
Well a negative divided by a minus is a positive number, so what's the problem. :<

As per the article, it's "minus 80 degrees Celsius (minus 112 degrees Fahrenheit)"; the cross over point between celsius and fahrenheit is -40

Here's a quote from the article:
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Of the three vaccines that have advanced to Phase 3 trials, two one made by Moderna and the National Institutes of Health, the other by Pfizer and BioNTech need to be kept in a near constant deep freeze. (They are made with genetic materials that fall apart when they thaw.) Another leading vaccine candidate, being developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University, must be kept cool but not frozen.
Emphasis added. The article doesn't appear to mention the status of the other 33 vaccine candidates currently undergoing clinical evaluation around the world.

(It does mention how UPS and FedEx are already taking appropriate measures for storage and transport, and already have some stuff in place due to the H1N1.)


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2. It require two doses - a month apart. Who will monitor? How to monitor? What about the bulk of the population?
That is a problem for the Moderna and Pfizer candidates, but again not for the AstraZeneca one. There are also five others that are stated as only requiring a single dose.

 
Old 09-20-2020, 09:37 AM   #7
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We all know that Trump says one thing in the morning and tweets something quite different after dark. That's hardly news any more.
 
Old 09-20-2020, 09:52 AM   #8
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The best estimates is that we are going to live with this for another year or so. Even after a good vaccine.

This isn't going to magically go away.

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Old 09-22-2020, 05:09 PM   #9
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The best estimates is that we are going to live with this for another year or so. Even after a good vaccine.

This isn't going to magically go away.
Actually, it will just go away, but when no one knows, 1,2 5 years? It will just fade away - that is certain, with or without a vaccine.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 05:19 PM   #10
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so do we get another stimulus check because I didn't get the first one?
 
Old 09-22-2020, 06:43 PM   #11
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Russia and China are distributing vaccines.

There are almost 10 in phase three looking for 30,000 volunteers each currently.

If anyone can predict the future then please contact me. I have some lottery questions that need answers.
 
Old 09-22-2020, 08:47 PM   #12
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The sad thing is otherwise intelligent people (including many outside of the US) complaining that the US president isn't doing enough to make the pandemic go away.
 
Old 09-23-2020, 01:27 PM   #13
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Johnson & Johnson is conducting 60,000 person trial
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ose-covid-shot
 
Old 09-23-2020, 06:17 PM   #14
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The sad thing is otherwise intelligent people (including many outside of the US) complaining that the US president isn't doing enough to make the pandemic go away.
Nobody's expecting him to do anything about the world's pandemic, since he can't. He can, however, do something about the US pandemic. Pretending that it isn't a problem and ignoring expert advice is definitely NOT enough to solve the problem, and will make the problem worse.

And those of us with friends or family in the US will continue to complain.
 
Old 09-23-2020, 07:22 PM   #15
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Sweden still seems to be against the world and seems to be doing equally well.

See daily death rates. https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/sweden/
 
  


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