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notslim 08-15-2003 03:37 PM

Power Outage
 
What caused it?

What do you think?

My money's on lovsan..

Thoughts?

david_ross 08-15-2003 03:41 PM

Microsoft - everything else is their fault!

Sorry -just wanted to get in there first.

notslim 08-15-2003 03:44 PM

It occurs to me that lightning IS an act of god.

thus, let's amend the poll to "acts of god OTHER than lightning"

:D

trickykid 08-15-2003 03:48 PM

Just a freakish overload on the grid, that's all... there's no other reason really. It will go unanswered as they should redo the whole grid outline for the USA anyways.. Make it so each state has their own grid or something.. hell, Texas does.. :D

JesseJames 08-15-2003 04:28 PM

I think a beaver broke in and switched all the generators off.
When I first saw the title of this thread I thought it would be a poll asking we was affected by the power outage :D

slakmagik 08-15-2003 04:41 PM

Yeah - I figured machine failure - old machinery trying to run truckloads of new personal machinery on a hot summer day - something just went *sproing*.

Second choice is 'It's all MS's fault.' :D

bulliver 08-15-2003 04:56 PM

What power outage? What cha'all talking about?

Ok forget it, I read the other thread...

No power out here, westcoast rules!

by "no power out here" I of course mean "no power outage out here". I haven't watched tv in days so I had not heard about this. The tv media swarmed on it, didn't they?

Just more rabble rabble rabble

twilli227 08-15-2003 07:38 PM

Westcoast rules? What are you paying for your electric?:D
Midwest all the way.:p
My bad, didn't see where you are from bulliver.

Whitehat 08-15-2003 10:33 PM

Machine Failure ......

It was gonna happen sooner or later...

Now the dumb media is just using it so fill up airtime.

:rolleyes: Freakin retards

Robert0380 08-16-2003 04:05 AM

i voted machine failure, but whatever it was, it was good to see there were no riots, looting and what not wen the sun went down.

scott_R 08-16-2003 06:48 AM

Okay, here's the evil side of me. The power outage was caused by lazy, obese people that can't stand to NOT have their AC at 68 deg f or risk pass out from heat stroke. It started in the midwest (I'm in Michigan, and trust me, this place is going to sink before California), and new jersey (ever been to a casino?). Just like holding a set of blocks, when you let go of the end ones, the middle justs fall away.

What stopped the crash? One, it's too damn cold further up the NE, no matter what time of year. :) Second, most people south of ohio don't have AC in their chiminey'd school bus homes. As for further west, lake michigan prevents some natural grid tie-ins, and indiana isn't exactly a hotbed of power usage.

Just kidding...mostly. :)

cli_man 08-16-2003 07:39 AM

It is always human error, We had our internet go down at work for 5 hours once because some guy in clevelend was working and tripped over a wire and took out internet to about 3 states, he didn't know where the wire went so he just went home and didn't worry about it!

Or We now have our internet in one town we service go down about 4-5 times a day for like one minute, at the same time all the phones and cell phones go down, and they tell us its our upstream provider. Its all human error, if they would just take five minutes to relize they shouldn't have the micawave plugged into the same outlet as the equipment for the oc23 line :-)

Speaking of micawave, at the last place I worked, the head IT guy couldn't figure out why every now and then all the servers would just reboot, they were on battery backup and the battery backup was working fine, he ended up tracing it to someone had plugged a micawave into the battery backup, I guess I can understand, I mean you need to make sure your popcorn can finish even if the power goes out, needless to say he went about 3 feet off the ground when he found that and the best part was my manager was the one that plugged the micawave into the UPS :-)

Its all Human Error, we just like to blame it on the machines, One last thought (or quote as it may be)

Computers always do what you tell them to do but rarely what you want them to do :-)

qanopus 08-16-2003 08:46 AM

you forgot one option. A burst of charged gas comming from the sun. I'm seriouse. That's what caused an power outage in Canada a few years ago.
Most of the time the sun is pretty quite. But once in 11 years, it bursts a huge amount solar gas into space.

flapjackboy 08-16-2003 11:02 AM

Couldn't it be both terrorists and animals?

I mean what if it was a crack team of anti-government badgers, sent by the badger liberation front to spread FUD amongst humans?

I tell ya, I'd be scared...:eek:

bulliver 08-16-2003 01:15 PM

Quote:

Couldn't it be both terrorists and animals?
Terrorist animals: Terrimals

bigjohn 08-16-2003 01:26 PM

Rubbish.

All we "non-US" types KNOW.


ALIENS (from the planet Zarg)

:D

regards

John

aizkorri 08-16-2003 01:35 PM

gremblins, they are here again...

320mb 08-16-2003 01:52 PM

MIB........men in black

I'd say the military was testing a "new energy weapon"
and the gov't can't prove they were'nt lest the cat get
let out of the bag. If we were to use this on say ....China or N. Korea.......yep we would be the only Super Power left.......

matador 08-16-2003 02:00 PM

ECONOMISTS! They caused the Columbia accident so they most probably caused this as well but that won't be in the papers. The papers will state that it was the engineers fucking up and not mention that the engineers had a knife on their necks by some MBA type.

synaptical 08-16-2003 03:12 PM

"it can only be attributable to human error."

:D

</hal>

even if the direct cause was machine/grid failure, imho it still comes down to humans not upgrading or maintaining the system properly (or otherwise doing something dumb :p ).

notslim 08-16-2003 05:50 PM

my first 2-page thread! :D

Mathieu 08-16-2003 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notslim
my first 2-page thread! :D
Congratulations. :)

matador 08-16-2003 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notslim
my first 2-page thread! :D
FUCKIN EY!!

KneeLess 08-16-2003 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by matador
F*** IN EY!!
:tisk: Cursing = bad for your teeth.

It was those damned terrimals. Those little girls think those little bunny rabbits are cute. But look what happened in Monty Python and the Holy Grail! That, my friends, was a terrimal.

sk8guitar 08-16-2003 08:41 PM

how far did the outtage go? i'm in maryland and i didn't get hit by it

js_530 08-16-2003 08:49 PM

It probally was machine error, but I'd like to say some stupid terrimal did it before the toxic gas was in place :). I know that a few powerplants run on windows. I hope none of the nuclear powerplants run on windows. If they did, US would be blown to a pulp by now.

Mathieu 08-16-2003 09:08 PM

Quote:

how far did the outtage go? i'm in maryland and i didn't get hit by it
6 states in the US and one canadian province.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/maps/...t.exclude.html

synaptical 08-27-2003 10:23 AM

Human Error Likely Cause of Blackout, Timeline Says
Aug 27, 2003

By ANDREW C. REVKIN and RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA The New York Times

Investigators of North America's biggest blackout say all signs from a nearly completed timeline point to human errors in the early stages in Ohio on Aug. 14 as the cause of the cascade into darkness.

They have nearly finished assembling a second-by-second chronology composed of millions of bits of data collected from computers, voice recorders and hundreds of sensors scattered from Detroit through Canada into New York, officials said.
...
"We think we have the timeline nailed pretty well," said Donald M. Benjamin, vice president of the North American Electric Reliability Council, the industry group created after the 1965 blackout to maintain electricity flows.

"It's down to the second in terms of what happens, which transmission paths opened, when areas became isolated," Mr. Benjamin said. "It provides a good understanding of how the power flows."

But an expert from the federal government taking part in the investigation was much more definitive about a probable cause, saying all the data pointed to mistakes by people in the event's earliest stages.

The crucial missteps, a federal investigator working on the analysis said last night, appear to have occurred in the handling of an hourlong sequence of line failures and plant shutdowns preceding the full-blown blackout, which swept parts of eight states and eastern Canada starting around 4:10 p.m. on Aug. 14.

"Had all of the existing policies been followed, this would not have developed into a cascading event," the investigator said. "What we see are institutional breakdowns, not a breakdown of the system itself."

He and other investigators declined to discuss details, but others involved in the investigation said the timeline essentially matched independent analyses done recently by several grid experts and utilities.

rmartine 08-27-2003 02:01 PM

Nope... it's a giant conspiracy.

It was really the gas companies.

They discovered that citizens of New York and other such cities were planning massive gasoline protests and burning down every Shell station they could find. To squash the revolts, they decided to kill the power in strategically marked cities.

It's them... they know we are tired of being exploited and conveniently near Labor Day. Maybe your city is next....

:eek: :confused: :mad: :cry:

Shade 08-28-2003 01:38 AM

Micawave?

I've got a microwave, but never heard of one of these strange, micawaves...

(just razzing because you mispelled it about 5 times in your post...)

-Shade

320mb 08-28-2003 03:47 AM

none of the above........it was the US Military testing a "new energy weapon".
and the US Gov't can't prove otherwise, lest the cat gets "let out of the bag".............


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