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Old 05-12-2020, 01:34 PM   #121
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How so? Why should I care what others like if it has zero impact on me or the world I live in?
The "it ain't personal 'til it's personal" mindset is problematic.
 
Old 05-14-2020, 01:46 AM   #122
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How so? Why should I care what others like if it has zero impact on me or the world I live in?
Prejudice itself has nothing to do with "what others like".
In fact it's impossible to survive without any sort of prejudice at all; it's only unchecked prejudice against other people that can get problematic sometimes.
And trust me, even those that currently shout out at the slightest slight aren't free of prejudice against the very thing they think they're protecting. They just aren't wise & humble enough to realise it (yet). Later generations will show them.

But, you yourself state that you agree with me:
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I am aware that it is impossible to escape all prejudice
Why continue discussing the point, instead of just taking it? You don't like criticism, do you (see, another prejudice here)? Or you think just because I don't demonstratively put myself on "your side", I must automatically belong to "the other side"?
 
Old 05-14-2020, 11:35 AM   #123
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Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
Prejudice itself has nothing to do with "what others like".
In fact it's impossible to survive without any sort of prejudice at all; it's only unchecked prejudice against other people that can get problematic sometimes.
And trust me, even those that currently shout out at the slightest slight aren't free of prejudice against the very thing they think they're protecting. They just aren't wise & humble enough to realise it (yet). Later generations will show them.

But, you yourself state that you agree with me:

Why continue discussing the point, instead of just taking it? You don't like criticism, do you (see, another prejudice here)? Or you think just because I don't demonstratively put myself on "your side", I must automatically belong to "the other side"?
Ondoho I agree with your first paragraph but I am at a loss as to why you conclude such things as "You don't like criticism, do you?" after as much as we both post in the same threads. I have admitted mistakes and altered my view numerous times here. Frankly I find the old saw "Lead. Follow... or get out of the way" silly and a bit offensive since those are not the sole alternatives of thinking individuals. I think there is "room" for everyone, absent coercion. Certainly I'd rather be right than mistaken, but I am far more committed to not staying mistaken once I learn I have been. I have no problem at all if you disagree.

Again, "sides" only become an issue when some entitled, often sanctimonious, person tries to force what they prefer on others. As per this thread, there are places creating laws to enforce political "correctness". I consider that a mistake and an affront to individuality.
 
Old 05-17-2020, 12:48 AM   #124
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"Turn to neither the right nor the left." --said long ago to all of us.

Don't fall prey to the 'divide and conquer' strategy. If we do, we're letting Tom Sawyer get the better of us, for he is getting us to do his work for him.

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