Oracle v. Google Rears Its Ugly Head Again

frankbell · 03-29-2018, 08:36 PM

The Federal Circuit has overturned the verdict in Google's favor in the case over Google's use of Java in Android. Abovethelaw.com has the details:

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/03/orac...pyright-cases/

sundialsvcs · 03-29-2018, 08:57 PM

I never understood the technical argument for using Java in a probably-underpowered phone to begin with. (And I don't know of too many apps that actually stay in that environment.) I've always thought, "oh, you've got to be kidding. Java's such a pig that it doesn't even run particularly well on a 'respectable' computer." I think Apple has a much more robust strategy in Swift. (Likewise cross-platform languages such as Haxe/OpenFL.)

frankbell · 03-29-2018, 10:07 PM

I suspect Google used it because it was there and it was easier than coming up with something new and they could marshall it into something they could control.

As an aside, as you know, I'm not a big Google fan, but, next to Oracle, Google looks like a white knight on a noble charger.

I agree with the poster at Above the Law: the Federal Circuit got it wrong, because they don't get it.

ChuangTzu · 03-30-2018, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbell

I suspect Google used it because it was there and it was easier than coming up with something new and they could marshall it into something they could control.

As an aside, as you know, I'm not a big Google fan, but, next to Oracle, Google looks like a white knight on a noble charger.

I agree with the poster at Above the Law: the Federal Circuit got it wrong, because they don't get it.

Or did they get it stuffed into an envelope or donated to an account of their choice? With the abuses of these companies with regards to other "domains" any victory for them is most likely a padded wallet somewhere.

YesItsMe · 04-09-2018, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbell

I suspect Google used it because it was there

It's unclear whether Google "designed" Android with Java, since they basically just bought Android Inc. (with the existing code) in 2005. Since Apple was fast enough, they needed to push their new product into the market soon, so "it was there" probably was a good reason to stick with it for the time being.

At least Kotlin has become a first-class citizen with Android Studio 3.

cynwulf · 04-10-2018, 03:07 AM

When google acquired Android Inc, android was very different to what it is today.

google have developed it since 2005 to become an iOS clone.

The use of particular software is just a means to an end, e.g.

Quote:

Bionic library

Google developed a custom library for the C compiler (libc) called Bionic. This was necessary for three main reasons:

License: they wanted to keep GPL out of user-space. Bionic code uses the BSD license.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/patric...sects-android/