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Old 05-23-2019, 09:52 PM   #1
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On the Lookout for Computer Parts


Going shopping for computer parts, and here are some of the stuff I'm looking for,
Motherboard - ASUS PRIME A320M-K (https://www.wintroniccomputers.com/1472 ... -atx-ryzen)
Processor - AMD Athlon 200GE (https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=128189)
RAM - Kingston ValueRAM 4GB DDR4 2400MHz DIMM (https://www.wintroniccomputers.com/1345 ... r24n17s6-4)
That's pretty much it. Good deals? Should I get better deals? Should I get better parts? What is it?

I don't have feelings, I only want to get into the modern age of computer parts since my last Pentium IV went bust after a power outage. If you have any advice, and not afraid to abuse me (after all, be cruel to be kind), by all means.

Thank you.

EDIT: Also, what stores in the Mississauga and Markham regions (i.e. Greater Toronto Area of Ontario, Canada) have good return policies/warranties in case my motherboard, CPU, and RAM are defective?
 
Old 05-26-2019, 04:56 AM   #2
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Personally, I'd do things in this order
  1. Set your Budget - fixed or approx
  2. Settle on storage, video, & Monitor
  3. That leaves the balance for m/b & cpu

I'd source parts from suppliers, and check data from manufacturers. Don't goo too far from home. You want to be able to return crappy stuff. Also check linux compatibility. I've shafted myself big time there more than once.
 
Old 05-26-2019, 05:56 AM   #3
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You could try entering your parts through PC Part Picker to make sure everything is compatible.
 
Old 05-26-2019, 09:13 PM   #4
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If you're still looking for computer parts after finding your wish list and want to buy cheap, I'll suggest to you estate sales. I bought my Dell Vostro 420, which still works amazingly well for the end of life Vista Business COA, at one for around $25.
 
Old 05-26-2019, 09:21 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by business_kid View Post
Personally, I'd do things in this order
  1. Set your Budget - fixed or approx
  2. Settle on storage, video, & Monitor
  3. That leaves the balance for m/b & cpu

I'd source parts from suppliers, and check data from manufacturers. Don't goo too far from home. You want to be able to return crappy stuff. Also check linux compatibility. I've shafted myself big time there more than once.
Good ideas.

I already have a hard drive, monitor, and an optical drive.

That leaves the motherboard, the CPU, and the RAM.

I can't believe I didn't tell you guys that on the first post, but we all make mistakes.

Thank you all for helping out. More replies are welcome.

EDIT: Of course, I've already set my budget: I've done my homework as to how much I have to spend without blowing my life savings. I've bid my time, bought some the aforementioned parts for my computer, like my HDD, monitor, optical drives, chassis fans (called in a few favours too), and shopped at different stores, because not all computer stores have all bargain parts at one sitting; in fact, they don't.

I'm just typing this stuff to share my strategy in an effort to help you guys help me. I also did so because others might want to learn how I do stuff so they may make good decisions. I have no intention to sound pompous, I'm just laying this all out for your help, and I do request help.

Thank you for reading, and I hope we help each other. (I still need help, by the way. )

EDIT: The motherboard comes with integrated video; I just need the AM4 processor because it has video capability.

Last edited by RobertX; 05-26-2019 at 09:29 PM.
 
Old 05-26-2019, 10:18 PM   #6
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How cheap do you want to go?

If you're on the super cheap, you can get a Athlon 240GE for ~$60 (USD) (if you needed even cheaper there's the 220GE and 200GE, which are identical other than frequency). It's dual core w/ SMT (4 threads) and integrated Vega 3. It's not going to set the world alight with it's processing power, but it's a modern CPU with a moderately decent IGP.

If you want something with more ability, the Ryzen 5 2400G is a quad core w/ SMT and integrated Vega11 graphics. Actually good enough for light gaming, and with 8 threads, does fairly well at most cpu-intensive tasks as well. In the middle ground is the Ryzen 3 2200G, but I wouldn't recommend it particularly. IT's not SMT, so only does 4 threads (although 4 true cores), and Vega 8 is significantly weaker than the Vega11 of the Ryzen 5.

As far as your memory, get DDR4 2666 at least, if not DDR4 2933. All 2000 series Ryzen & Athlon zen-based 200 series APU's support the 2466, most support the 2933, and the Vega IGP is EXTREMELY heavily affected by memory speed. I'd also SERIOUSLY suggest finding a decent 2x4GB (8 gb total) kit. Again, Vega IGP takes a GARGANTUAN hit in performance when running with single channel system memory. And modern tasks will benefit from having 8GB vs. 4GB. Some tasks are actually getting to the point where 4GB is too limiting.

If you can't do a Ryzen APU and 8 GB memory, get the Athlon for now and 8GB memory. A nice cpu + 4 GB ram will perform overall far worse than a lower (but still tolerable) CPU + 8 GB ram. Plus with 3000 series Ryzens due out later this year and still supporting AM4, you could wait until early next year and get a 3000 series APU to replace the Athlon in order to have a significantly more powerful machine.

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Old 05-26-2019, 10:36 PM   #7
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Well, when I first posted this thread, that's what I want to get.

To put it simply, I already know how much how cheap I want to go.

I guess I should make up my mind on what to write. Sorry if it seems that way.

My statement should be "such and such in the links are what I want, but if you want to tell me I can get better with better prices, I'm all ears."

You did that Tim, and that would do wonders to help me, thank you, but I'm not going to get the Athlon 240GE because it's at $99 Canadian Dollars in the Canadian franchise store Canada Computers (canadacomputers.com), or another computer store called Wintronic Computers (wintroniccomputers.com).

I guess I want a computer that is not a gaming rig, but one that can play retro games, and be pretty stable. To put it succinctly, an "all-rounder," or a "budget computer."

Thank you for the replies, and keep going!

Last edited by RobertX; 05-26-2019 at 10:39 PM.
 
Old 05-26-2019, 10:44 PM   #8
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Eh, apparently the conversion for Canukian dollars isn't that great.

Not a huge difference between the 200GE and 240GE anyway, I just defaulted to the 240 since in USD it's only $15 difference from 200GE to 240GE.

In the end, the important thing is get faster memory and 8 GB in dual channel. You'll thank yourself even though it's more expensive.

Last edited by Timothy Miller; 05-26-2019 at 10:50 PM.
 
Old 05-26-2019, 11:01 PM   #9
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Money is still money.

But thanks! I'll use these leads and form a decision.

Thanks guys!
 
Old 05-27-2019, 05:13 AM   #10
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My way would be to buy pre used, from someone who has to have the latest gear, so it would be barely used.

I've bought a few pre used, & not been disappointed, maybe take a look yourself(?).
 
  


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