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Old 05-01-2009, 10:04 AM   #1
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Off-Grid Living Thoughts

Hello All,

I thought I would take the time to post some thing that has been on my mind lately. I have a desire to live off the grid but I only just came to the realization of what that would really mean.

My idea of off grid living is to have a place of my own that is very isolated and away from human population, thus giving me much peace and quiet. My electricity would would provided via solar and battery banks. I would heat my home with a wood stove and I would cook with a wood stove oven. My water would be provided by a deep water well. And my food would be grown in my own garden.

But doing all this means that I wouldn't have any internet, because being isolated and off-grid I would no access to any public utilities. This means I wouldn't be able to run my own websites, and by run I mean that I wouldn't be able to mange them. All my sites are hosted with a hosting provider. I wouldn't be able to watch movies online, I wouldn't be able to play World of Warcraft. I would have a computer to do work on, such as writing and research but there would be no internet. My Linux boxes wouldn't be patched and if I wanted them to be up to date I would have to update via cd by driving into town to use library internet or via a friends internet connection.

I also realized that I would have no access to email or phone. I despise cell phones so that is out. Believe it or not I don't even have a cell phone. My phone is provided to me via VOIP al a Vonage. I am a ham radio operator so I could keep in touch with the outside world using HF/VHF/UHF Frequencies I have access to.

I also wouldn't be able to watch the simpsons online.

I don't own a tv, nor do I have television service. I have cable internet currently and watch what I want online via broadband. I wouldn't get satellite tv, as in my opinion tv, just rots the mind. I would likely have satellite radio though.

While there is a sense of nostalgia in living this kind of life. I realize that If I want this kind of life but still have internet then I wouldn't be able to do everything. I could still power my stuff off solar and I could still have a deep water well. And I would also be able to have my own garden but if I want internet i would either have to get Satellite internet, which sucks. Dial up is even worse or I would have to have access to a cable provider or DSL provider or I would need to have a wireless connection back to an ISP in town if I live outside town.

The benefits would be that I would have a healthier life and a better standard of living. I wouldn't be so jacked-in and my mind wouldn't be going to waste.

I would be able to keep myself entertained with books as I love to read. Sure there would be some withdrawal symptoms at first but eventually I would get past them but the question remains would I want to get past them Would I want to go through that kind of withdrawal. Of course I am debating a career change that wouldn't have me in front of a computer 24/7 so I wouldn't be so jacked-in.

I would love to here your thoughts on this. I would like to know if you think you could do this. I would like to know what is the one thing about off grid living that you just wouldn't be able to live without.
Old 05-01-2009, 10:31 AM   #2
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Have you looked into high speed multimedia radio?

Old 05-01-2009, 10:38 AM   #3
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Get Satellite internet, if you discount cell phones (which out in bufu wouldn't work well anyways) then satellite is the only real option you have. I don't know when you last used sat internet but it has *dramatically* improved in the last couple years. No, it's still not as good as cable or dsl... but it's not 500ms+ and that being called 'acceptable'.

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Old 05-01-2009, 11:04 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by rweaver View Post
Get Satellite internet, if you discount cell phones (which out in bufu wouldn't work well anyways) then satellite is the only real option you have.
I think the OP wants to be totally disconnected from the rest of the world. I see an option like this as still being connected to the "grid". As to use Internet, you have to send packets, along with receiving them. You have to have an IP. Which means you have to have a provider, which means you're on the "grid".
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Originally Posted by rweaver View Post
Get Satellite internet, if you discount cell phones (which out in bufu wouldn't work well anyways) then satellite is the only real option you have.
I agree, I don't think there's a spot on the planet where satellite internet is not available ... maybe Antarctica ?

Anyway good luck, I've always wanted to live somewhere as far away from people as possible. Maybe as an old man I'll get my wish. But you're right, it's the internet that I wouldn't be able to do without ... I will get satellite internet when I do this. Depending on where you are you may have other options as well.

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Old 05-01-2009, 03:10 PM   #6
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Living off the grid? I assume you'll be looking for cash only jobs, that you'll get a PO box (that you'll pay for in cash) and that any utilities and other bills will be paid by a third party (that you'll give cash to). The logistics become more and more difficult as more and more things are not payable without a bank account and a card of some sort.
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Living "off the grid" doesn't even require all of that. I've been doing it for years. Pre-paid, reloadable credit cards are the real key.


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