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Old 04-15-2019, 03:31 PM   #1
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Notre-Dame


Looks like it's lost. Who here has been? The last time I went was in 2013, and I wrote this article just outside the cathedral. Great place to do some creative work.

I love Paris, one of my favourite cities. Very sad to see.

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Old 04-15-2019, 05:52 PM   #2
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It is real sad about the burning of the Nortre-Dame Cathedral. A very tragic fire.

Thank you for uploading the article, 'Cyclic Law,' Petit Bain, Paris, in 'Heathen harvest.' I did not know that you were a writer.
 
Old 04-15-2019, 08:01 PM   #3
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Truly sad Lysander, I had to turn off the tv. We will not know how bad it is until the fires burn out. To think they struggled to find the money for the renovations, how will they rebuild after this devastating fire?
 
Old 04-15-2019, 09:18 PM   #4
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Absolutely heart breaking.

The church was the heart of Paris, if not the country of France.
I hope they can rebuild.

That is the oldest part of Paris. IIRC, if you walk south across the bridge into the Left Bank,
make a left turn, go one block, turn right (I think that is Rue St. Jacques*) and walk... maybe two blocks or so, and you will come to a section of the ancient wall that once surrounded the City of Paris.
At one time there was a parking lot in front of the Church and while I was living there someone dug it up and found what looked like another city underneath. It was fenced off and you could stand at the edge and look down and see narrow streets, buildings/houses/rooms (without roofs), etc.
At about the same time the French had developed a method to clean the centuries of soot and dirt off their monuments and buildings (without doing any damage). They had just started on Notre Dame about the time I left.

*There was a little restaurant on the west side of the street about half a block or so so from the river that served the best "coquette st jacques." Makes me hungry just thinking about it. Maybe I'm confusing the name of the rue (street) with the food.

A girlfriend had a great little apartment off a small, short street, one street over from the north side of the church. As you opened the courtyard door when leaving and if you looked up and towards the south you could see the rear spire of the church between the buildings. That is gone now. As I said, I hope by some miracle, the church can be restored. So much history.

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Old 04-16-2019, 06:08 AM   #5
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This has to be something to do with the renovation project. It would be too much of a coincidence otherwise. Someone slipped up.

If it's any comfort, York Minster suffered a similar degree of damage some years ago after a lightning strike and they managed to build a new roof which is so well constructed that you can't tell it's not original. Same for the Stephansdom in Vienna, which lost its roof to an Allied bomb. These mediaeval buildings were designed to be durable and easy to repair.
 
Old 04-17-2019, 10:13 AM   #6
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The article at the link below has some explanation of the fire along with several photos and video.
Not bad reporting for Pravda West, aka, The New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/w...gtype=Homepage

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Old 04-17-2019, 03:45 PM   #7
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French Billionaires Pledge $680 Million to Restore Notre Dame
https://www.forbes.com/sites/iainmar.../#568ad9d85608
 
Old 04-25-2019, 01:23 PM   #8
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I said it had something to do with the renovation! I just read that they found cigarette butts around the spire even though (of course) the workers were completely forbidden to smoke in such a tinderbox. The police have now heard a number of confessions by workers that they were regularly defying the ban.

Well, what do you expect? Nicotine is severely addictive.
 
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I said it had something to do with the renovation! I just read that they found cigarette butts around the spire even though (of course) the workers were completely forbidden to smoke in such a tinderbox. The police have now heard a number of confessions by workers that they were regularly defying the ban.

Well, what do you expect? Nicotine is severely addictive.

Add that to the warning label: May burn down historic irreplaceable national treasures.
 
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The plot thickens a bit: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ught-fire.html
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04...5440231634.jpg
 
Old 04-25-2019, 08:12 PM   #11
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"Thickens"? Really? That "article" can be summed up in one sentence as: Michelle Obama also hears about the fire. How is that of any interest?
 
Old 04-26-2019, 12:55 AM   #12
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...The police have now heard a number of confessions by workers that they were regularly defying the ban...
Mistaken identity?



Not posted in bad taste, but as a way of grasping at unexpected humour.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 07:50 AM   #13
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I said it had something to do with the renovation! I just read that they found cigarette butts around the spire even though (of course) the workers were completely forbidden to smoke in such a tinderbox. The police have now heard a number of confessions by workers that they were regularly defying the ban.
If I were a betting man, I would wager that it was the most likely cause. It was my first thought on hearing of the fire amid the renovation works and seeing the scaffolding amid the flames.

At least Macron can kind of blame some "yellow vests" for the whole thing...
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"Thickens"? Really? That "article" can be summed up in one sentence as: Michelle Obama also hears about the fire. How is that of any interest?
Nothing very newsworthy is ever published in the Mail.

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Old 04-26-2019, 11:27 AM   #14
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What about online articles about specialists who say old oak doesn't burn like that?
In any case, I doubt it burnt from a left cigarette (or maybe with a lot of fire accelerant)
 
Old 04-26-2019, 11:49 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by hazel View Post
I said it had something to do with the renovation! I just read that they found cigarette butts around the spire even though (of course) the workers were completely forbidden to smoke in such a tinderbox. The police have now heard a number of confessions by workers that they were regularly defying the ban.

Well, what do you expect? Nicotine is severely addictive.
Gauloises?
A extremely strong cigarette and one of the worst smelling, IMHO, but very popular in France (or were, things change).
As to Mrs. Obummer; did you take a good look at those photos? Obummer's brother has recently been saying "Michelle" is actually a "Michael." From looking at those pictures there could be something to that.......
 
  


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