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SL00b 08-25-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Caravel (Post 4451900)
Then don't use chromium...

It's not even a Chrome issue, it's a website issue, because all the tracking is done through standard methods (javascript, tracking cookies) that work in any browser.

This is where a browser plug-in like NoScript comes in.

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Originally Posted by Caravel (Post 4451900)
As to yahoo, they're a joke. I switched from yahoo about a week ago (after being with them about 2 months) - just recently it got that bad that I could only log in using firefox if I cleared the browser cache first and at times it wouldn't log out properly - even the ads weren't working properly... I had to use chrome just to get to my email - and that was just in winblows at work...

I've had them for years, I change browsers like many people change cars, and I've never had any issues.

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Originally Posted by Caravel (Post 4451900)
As to gmail the best way to deal with them is to use their service, but with an alternative search engine, e.g. DuckDuckGo. google's services are designed so that the user remains logged into the google "bubble" and does all of their searching and emailing from there - which is how they build up a profile on the person.

This is solid advice.

cynwulf 08-25-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SL00b (Post 4453078)
It's not even a Chrome issue, it's a website issue, because all the tracking is done through standard methods (javascript, tracking cookies) that work in any browser.

My response was to Sumguy's post, which was a general observation about chrome rather than specifically yahoo. You're correct however in that tracking is generally not browser specific, but in the case of chrome it's designed and built to track you.

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Originally Posted by SL00b (Post 4453078)
This is where a browser plug-in like NoScript comes in.

IMO something like noscript is a must, but the average joe is clueless as to how to deal with it (what to allow, what not to), so it will never take off beyond the niche of "power users", geeks, etc.

lumak 08-25-2011 03:49 PM

You can always buy a domain from somewhere that allows you to have 1 e-mail address for your self. 1and1 has this for the cost of the domain per year (about $10). But you only have POP3 and imap at that price. If you want a little more features and webmail access, you can spend $1.50 a month. Honestly, with the way things are going, a personal domain and e-mail isn't that bad of a deal. Maybe somebody will make a social network out of people's own webpages.

But ya know... there are still web-crawlers that could mine all that data ;)

cousinlucky 08-25-2011 06:49 PM

Folks using the " Upgraded Yahoo " express their frustrations here:
http://email.about.com/u/r/od/yahoom...yahoo_mail.htm

Sumguy 08-26-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Caravel (Post 4451900)
If you want a "free" webmail service, it will be ad funded in one way or another (targeted ads, scanning, etc). If you don't want that, then you will have to pay and host your own email. That also depends on the people you're corresponding with also not using ad funded webmail - as your correspondence with them will be scanned... if that's a problem - try using a mail client with GnuPG encryption or write a letter and put it in the post.


Then don't use chromium...

As to yahoo, they're a joke. I switched from yahoo about a week ago (after being with them about 2 months) - just recently it got that bad that I could only log in using firefox if I cleared the browser cache first and at times it wouldn't log out properly - even the ads weren't working properly... I had to use chrome just to get to my email - and that was just in winblows at work...

As to gmail the best way to deal with them is to use their service, but with an alternative search engine, e.g. DuckDuckGo. google's services are designed so that the user remains logged into the google "bubble" and does all of their searching and emailing from there - which is how they build up a profile on the person.

I'm not so much worried about the email (I use pop3- no webmail) as I am the darn browsers and search engines, although getting a personal domain or using Fastmail or a paid service sounds like the way to go if need be. (The only thing I dislike about paid services, is....they REALLY have your info if they choose to utilize it). I've come to like anonymity in today's world. I use a Tracfone with prepaid cards I pay cash for....that's a nice bit of privacy (Not to mention it gives me cell service for about $6 a month)

I really do need to dump Chromium.....but it's so hard finding a good browser and search engine that doesn't spy on you. [I said GOOD]. I don't really require much...main thing I like about Chromium is how when you open a new tab, you have easy access to recent history....and if the electricity goes out, when you start the browser back up, it asks if you want to re-open the pages that were up before it crashed.
(I don't like Firefox much...which is a shame, as it probably has enough available plug-ins to prevent all the spying).

The biggest step I take to ensure my privacy, is not putting my name on my computer. But it still irks me when I visit a website, and the ads are for products I had just been looking at or searching for! (As is the case right now, as I look to the right!)

cynwulf 08-26-2011 05:58 AM

Your best option is still firefox or maybe seamonkey with noscript, adblock, etc. If you want a search engine that doesn't track you, then look no further than DuckDuckGo.

SL00b 08-26-2011 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Caravel (Post 4453090)
IMO something like noscript is a must, but the average joe is clueless as to how to deal with it (what to allow, what not to), so it will never take off beyond the niche of "power users", geeks, etc.

You're not kidding there. I installed it on my wife's laptop, and she hates it. She's constantly clicking on "Allow all this page," which defeats the purpose entirely. <facepalm>

Still, someone has to view the ads that pay the bills that keep the servers running, so that's the price people pay for lack of technical proficiency.

My wife even told me, "I like the ads." She gets about a hundred pieces of spam in her email a day, too. It's a busy day for mine if I get four.

enine 08-26-2011 07:54 PM

I gave up on yahoo when they started intrusive advertising, they were the first way back to start with popup ads. It escalated to pushing spyware via games and offensive e-mail signatures. I kicked them away and never went back.

MrCode 08-26-2011 08:05 PM

TBH, I use the Yahoo! webmail service and I don't have any real problems with it so far. :-\

Then again, I do use Firefox with NoScript and AdBlock Plus, and I don't get very many e-mails anyway, so…

cousinlucky 08-28-2011 01:20 PM

Well something is happening with Yahoo!! Yahoo has blocked another of my email accounts and removed their
" upgrade request " on two other email accounts of mine. Their " strongly urge you to upgrade " has been
changed to a " please upgrade "!! Maybe after a few weeks or months they will let me use my email accounts
again!! I am not upgrading!!

theKbStockpiler 08-28-2011 08:09 PM

Yahoo is fast and easy. We all have disgusting browsing habbits.
 
I prefer Yahoo Mail Myself. I got tired of their (Update) prompts so I went about completing it. I was still fuzzy from being subjected to Gnome 3 I guess. I was using Seamonkey and a dialogue message appeared that I needed a supported browser Of which I think the only one listed was Ff. Why does Yahoo prefer I use a Browser that the download Manager is lousy? I'll never figure that one out but when I log on now it does not redirect me to update. I don't see anywhere that you Must update by the way. :hattip:

cousinlucky 08-28-2011 09:35 PM

Yahoo emailed all of their users about the " upgrade " but did not demand that all accounts do so.
I had one account that gave me until 8-13-11 to Upgrade and when I did not Yahoo refused me access to that account unless I upgraded. I do not use Firefox for anything and I refuse to be forced to use it. My second Yahoo account was denied access to today because I did not upgrade but I had time to transfer its contents to a new Fastmail account!!

I have six more Yahoo accounts that no upgrade demand was ever made upon. I suspect there was some criteria that Yahoo used to determine which email accounts they would block without an upgrade. I figure sooner or later Yahoo will put up a notice that I have until a certain date to upgrade those two accounts or yahoo will remove them; or yahoo will remove the block and let me use them again!!

The " silver lining " here is that I have been exposed to Fastmail at http://www.fastmail.fm where multiple email accounts are just $4.95 ( and up ) each and they are not giving me proctologic exams while I am using their email.

newbiesforever 08-29-2011 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4450356)
I recommend against Google and Chrome and Gmail, they all are designed to track you everywhere you go and feed Google all your personal info.

I personally use fastmail.

Thanks for the tip. I'd change e-mail systems, but moving my archived e-mails would be some trouble.

I don't like the new Yahoo e-mail either.

cousinlucky 08-29-2011 06:32 AM

Yahoo upgrade demand screenshot!
 
oops!

cousinlucky 08-29-2011 06:39 AM

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