Share your knowledge at the LQ Wiki.
Go Back > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General
User Name
General This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!


  Search this Thread
Old 12-22-2019, 09:01 PM   #1
LQ Guru
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Ubuntu MATE, Mageia, and whatever VMs I happen to be playing with
Posts: 15,767
Blog Entries: 27

Rep: Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629Reputation: 4629
No Place To Hide

The New York Times explores how Big Data tracks your "smart" phon e and what they do with the data. No summary can do it justice, but here's an excerpt:

The Times and other news organizations have reported on smartphone tracking in the past. But never with a data set so large. Even still, this file represents just a small slice of what’s collected and sold every day by the location tracking industry — surveillance so omnipresent in our digital lives that it now seems impossible for anyone to avoid.
Old 12-23-2019, 08:15 AM   #2
Registered: Sep 2018
Location: Missouri
Distribution: Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver & Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa
Posts: 780
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 77
Good article about the sad prospect of losing our privacy not only to the government: but to any business, any company, that wants our personal information for any reason.

The data reviewed by Times Opinion didn’t come from a telecom or giant tech company, nor did it come from a governmental surveillance operation. It originated from a location data company, one of dozens quietly collecting precise movements using software slipped onto mobile phone apps. You’ve probably never heard of most of the companies — and yet to anyone who has access to this data, your life is an open book. They can see the places you go every moment of the day, whom you meet with or spend the night with, where you pray, whether you visit a methadone clinic, a psychiatrist’s office or a massage parlor.
Old 12-23-2019, 08:45 AM   #3
Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2010
Location: Continental USA
Distribution: Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, RedHat, DSL, Puppy, CentOS, Knoppix, Mint-DE, Sparky, Vsido, tinycore, Q4OS
Posts: 3,150

Rep: Reputation: 1367Reputation: 1367Reputation: 1367Reputation: 1367Reputation: 1367Reputation: 1367Reputation: 1367Reputation: 1367Reputation: 1367Reputation: 1367
It is easy to hide. Just stop using electronics. They do not track your body, only your devices.
Old 12-23-2019, 01:44 PM   #4
Jan K.
Registered: Apr 2019
Location: Esbjerg
Distribution: slackware...
Posts: 145

Rep: Reputation: 68
Originally Posted by wpeckham View Post
It is easy to hide. Just stop using electronics. They do not track your body, only your devices.
Are you really sure? NHS data to google...
Old 12-23-2019, 04:43 PM   #5
Senior Member
Registered: May 2015
Location: Where ever needed
Distribution: Slackware/Salix while testing others
Posts: 1,557

Rep: Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616Reputation: 1616
I've said for a long time that governments have figured out that the best way to circumvent constitutions and laws is to purchase your data from the companies that you willingly give it to. Social media, smartphone apps, rewards cards, credit card purchases etc... have all been established for the primary purpose of tracking you....You and your data/behavior profiles are the new commodity and we are the mice in their maze.

Consumer Tracking and Surveillance: Who is Watching You?

Twelve Million Phones, One Dataset, Zero Privacy

Stalin, Hitler and Mao could not even dream of having this type of surveillance power.

How Hitler suspended the right to mail and telephone privacy

Last edited by ChuangTzu; 12-23-2019 at 04:56 PM.
Old 12-24-2019, 02:18 AM   #6
Michael Uplawski
Registered: Dec 2015
Location: Outside, most of the time.
Posts: 822
Blog Entries: 25

Rep: Reputation: 511Reputation: 511Reputation: 511Reputation: 511Reputation: 511Reputation: 511
I've had to bear some outages recently.

While life went on, I had been worried about what I might miss, but even those “administrative” tasks which are nowadays entrusted to something on the Internet, were easy to perform in diverse ways.

Most of the “changes” imposed by the Internet are illusions and most of the “necessities” that arose are invented by the self-declared victim. There are cool ways to rid yourself of much of the trouble but I feel no pity for those who do not want to or just “do not want”. Anything.

Last edited by Michael Uplawski; 12-27-2019 at 11:01 AM. Reason: 'f' indeed
Old 12-24-2019, 03:52 AM   #7
LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2019
Posts: 20

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
We don't buy from Amazon, we've stopped using youtube, we haven't used the google search engine for years. We're closing our remaining gmail accounts (fed up of it reading our mail and offering us adverts - but it's been doing that for years). I shan't replace my Apple iPad with Apple and hope that something Linux comes out soon. My smart phone isn't very smart but hope to ditch that for a Linux one when it's feasible. We don't use mobile phones here much anyway - probably a couple of times a year. We don't have twitter, facebook, pinterest etc etc. However, the idea of how much selling of data and snooping that goes on is still extremely annoying. Steering clear of google is extremely hard. It's like salt and sugar - almost everything you buy that isn't home-made has too much of it and it probably isn't good for you. Even on Linux you have to look at apps carefully or it g-ingredient will pop up. I say all this in sadness because I remember when google was so innovative, had some kind of moral compass and a sense of humour... I can't see any of those things now. I just see an organisation that would sell its soul to the devil if it hadn't already... As for Apple and MS... don't start me on those two. We're appalled with how people to trust so much to organisations that make Skynet look like your granny... When we say any of these things to people who are stupid enough to ask our opinion, they really don't understand our concerns...

It's OK - I feel better now :-D
Old 12-27-2019, 06:21 AM   #8
Registered: Jul 2013
Distribution: Slackware 14 / current
Posts: 267

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
It's difficult to HIDE hide even without smart phones.
I live in a very sleepy town and don't have any smart things, but I still fully expect circling choppers with infrared and other things to come about if I ever did something that warranted "hiding HIDING".

Varmint hunters get gear like that, you can be sure that the feds will have it, too.
That said, and this is related to big brother in general and all that, there's also a freedom/calm to being "definetely chased" at the very least. It's like being in a war, fretting doesn't make the bullets any less dangerous.
So, keep it cool, and let the enemy still do the work of hitting you. In the case of the eternal watching eye, don't self censor, make em use their fancy gear to pin things on you.

>Hey that sounds like you're some suspicious fella

I'm a pretty suspicious fella, yes (why else would anyone want to analyze my traffic), and tomorrow, you might be one, as well. I mean, if "nerd" ever really gets declared as hate speech? Whew.

Last edited by Geist; 12-27-2019 at 06:25 AM.


big data, data tracking

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
No Place To Hide frankbell General 14 09-01-2018 12:09 AM
No Place To Hide frankbell General 4 01-21-2018 05:08 PM
No Place To Hide frankbell General 32 10-02-2013 05:49 AM
Hide encfs file-systems from being show in file manager. I tried using 99-hide-disks angel'le Linux - General 0 02-18-2013 05:44 AM > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:36 AM.

Main Menu
Write for LQ is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration