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Old 07-04-2016, 11:35 PM   #16
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AFAIC, many of these "toy" breeds have more to do with the vanity of humans than with the well-being of dogs.

After all, toys are things that people play with.
 
Old 07-04-2016, 11:37 PM   #17
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AFAIC, many of these "toy" breeds have more to do with the vanity of humans than with the well-being of dogs.

After all, toys are things that people play with.
I consider that animal cruelty in a sense. Spaying / neutering is one thing, but thats far as I go. I would never buy a toy breed cat, let alone a dog, and I sure as hell would never even de-claw my cat.
 
Old 07-06-2016, 01:24 AM   #18
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I could probably guarantee if I were to abandon my cat , a German Shepard , a Husky, and whatever the hell this 'Pumi' is, the Pumi would be the first to just outright die.

I also have people come by my house with their stupid Pomeranians or other idiotic breed, and I can just see my cat in the background and I know whats going through his mind....

"Can I eat that?"

Oh yea I forgot, in his younger years my cat would come home with two dead rabbits the equivalent size of these stupid dog breeds.

Just saying.
Is this your cat?

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Old 07-06-2016, 08:55 AM   #19
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Like Hazel. All my 5 dogs and 1 cat were throw aways that were on death row till I showed up.

2 of my dogs are expensive AKC breeds that mezoamericans raised as a meat/food source. Most folks have the misconception they are toy dogs. If one was as big as German Shepard. It would be death on 4 legs with their temperament and mindset as they are very aggressive dogs with no fear.

2 others are AKC dogs also
. Also small and very aggressive. Mine are well fed and overweight. I kill them with love.

Lastly 1 Dalmatian that is the calmest of the lot. But the most powerful and is AKC registered. But thrown away also.

Here is my wife bringing them in from the 100 + F temps we are experiencing outside. I let them enjoy the central A/C also. Unlike some neighbors who chain theirs up to a fencepost in the sun.

I do not think a pumi will make it down here to the desert southwest where I can save one from death row also.
But you never know.

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Old 07-06-2016, 10:08 AM   #20
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You're right about chihuahuas. They're a famously feisty breed; our unofficial local dog-walking club used to include a chihuahua bitch called Doodle who wasn't afraid of anything or anyone. Unfortunately these dogs often become seriously aggressive because their small size means they are allowed to get away with murder. They need discipline like any other dog.

Also chihuahuas, like many other dogs, have been bred down in size and have lost a lot of their quality as a result. A real chihuahua you can put under your arm, but it's too big to fit in a handbag, let alone a teacup.
 
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LOL probably

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You're right about chihuahuas. They're a famously feisty breed; our unofficial local dog-walking club used to include a chihuahua bitch called Doodle who wasn't afraid of anything or anyone. Unfortunately these dogs often become seriously aggressive because their small size means they are allowed to get away with murder. They need discipline like any other dog.

Also chihuahuas, like many other dogs, have been bred down in size and have lost a lot of their quality as a result. A real chihuahua you can put under your arm, but it's too big to fit in a handbag, let alone a teacup.

They are still all bark, for your chihuahua's safety I wouldn't let him near my cat. I still consider them also just rather stupid as a dog.

If I were to have a dog, it would be a proper dog, a German Shepard or Husky, but I don't have a big enough back yard.


Poodles can be very intelligent dogs, but still doesn't compare.

Also I know pitbulls have a bad wrap because of how some people raise them, but at the same time that is still a dog I would not trust; compared to again, a German Shepard.
 
Old 07-06-2016, 08:56 PM   #22
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Proof that cats are better than dogs anyways
 
Old 08-07-2016, 10:11 PM   #23
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I have not watched this yet, but it looks like it would be of interest to a lot of people who responded:
 
Old 08-08-2016, 06:02 AM   #24
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I have not watched this yet, but it looks like it would be of interest to a lot of people who responded:
I have been aware of this for years. One of my mini Doberman Pinchers has Hip dysplasia which is a common malady associated with purebreeds.

Being mechanically inclined and haveing a shop. I overcome this with her by making a strap on set of wheels for her hind legs.

For the proper dog statement. My dogs jobs are not to attack and chew up a unwanted trespasser. There job is to raise a alarm. Because I am the top dog that deals with using violence if needed in a needed situation.

I just need their eyes and ears. My crippled mini pin actually is the most watchful and alert of the bunch and takes no guff from no life form.

Edit: when I was raising my kids at my ranch in Esperanza TX. I rescued and raised pit bulls. I have come on the after math of coyotes killing pit bulls by teasing them till the pit bull keels over and dies from heat exhaustion.

Not one bite mark on the dead pit bull. But tracks surrounding the dog like crazy.

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Old 08-08-2016, 07:19 AM   #25
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I'm fond of the so-called "American Mutt Club." It's a group of dog breeders who are every bit as serious about breeding mixed-breed dogs as the AKC is about "genetic purity." One of the requirements for a dog to be registered with them is that the dog must have no more than so-many (small ...) percent ancestry from any one (AKC) breed. The dogs are rated, and valued, and no-doubt loved, based on their characteristics including diversity.

Because ... "that's how Mother Nature does it." All of us, after all, are "mutts." (When the rulers of Europe tried to wed their cousins and sisters, within a very few generations disorders such as haemophelia developed ... the so-called "royal disease.")

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Old 09-25-2019, 12:01 PM   #26
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And I have a word for all those something-oodles that persons pay through the nose for.
Oh, speaking of those:

The labradoodle of regret

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Old 09-25-2019, 12:53 PM   #27
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labradoodle
That's a real dog breed!
I heard a very imaginative 6-year old use that word and thought he made it up!
 
Old 09-26-2019, 05:30 AM   #28
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There's a lot of these poodle crosses around. They were originally invented for people who are allergic to dog dander (poodles don't shed) but then it became a fashion. After the labradoodle, the commonest is the cockapoo (cocker spaniel-poodle). The Northwick Park dogs include two of these plus a colliepoo (border collie-poodle) and a jackapoo (Jack Russel-poodle).
 
Old 09-26-2019, 12:12 PM   #29
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^ seriously? All these breed names sound like they were invented by preschoolers.

Anyhow, I hate dog breeding.
Everybody wants a small dog that looks at you with those teddy bear eyes, it's a disgusting business.
This is just one more somewhat funny reason to hate it.

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Old 09-26-2019, 07:14 PM   #30
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This news item seems relevant: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...e-14469503.php

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The Australian man who introduced labradoodles to the world back in 1989 says the breed is his "life's regret" - the spark for a proliferation of poodle hybrids that he claims has run amok with irresponsible breeding causing health problems.
 
  


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