need feedback for my site
 

hi, my site http://computer-tom.com is not very good, so i decided to update and upgrade.

i now have a partlly done xhtml site. i have fully converterd a bunch of pages, but still i find myself thinking if there is more i could do. what i need is feedback! new site is http://71.232.33.90/new%20menu. my site is correct xHTML and CSS, and i find it clean and effective. i am mainly looking for layout/menu kind of ideas, but i am open to both this and content oriented opinions, please tell me what you think. you can reach me here or through the site, thanks: Computer_tom.

i tried using mozilla firefox and konqueror, seem like page layout have problem.

sorry about that, i put the wrong url, fixed it now

The background image makes it impossible to read the menu, and the red stands out way too much on a grey background.

my site is correct xHTML and CSS, and i find it clean and effective.
Couldn't find new%20site so I looked through alpha new, new menu and such (you got to restrict access) and I'm really sorry to say the logo is horrendous, those backgrounds are not a pleasure to the eye and the page design isn't particularly attractive, inviting or functional as well. I would lay down the tools, take a step back and think about the purpose of the site, who you want to attract and what you want to convey? If this is a site focussing on ordering then you need to make it easy for them and have everything help them towards that goal, and nothing should distract from that. If this should be a site the whole family feels welcome at then you need to communicate that "warmth" (for obvious reasons showing smiling faces still works better than anything else,) warm colours, womens and kids area's, text should be written factual but "easy" and more "friendly" compared to shoppers sites where only cold facts like HW specs and price matter.


Apache/2.0.58 (Win32) PHP/5.1.4 Server at
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gotta agree about the background. Since your background is grey, its hard to look at some of the window images that are also grey.

Get rid of that big yellow and orange thing, it looks like ass.

computer-tom.com
 

i wish to know what people think about my site and the new super massive overhaul of it.


old: http://computer-tom.com


new: http://71.232.33.90/new%20menu

Your menus on the left overlap the main section.
There are many broken links on the new on and one on the old one.
Your site logo on the front page could be a lot smaller. I hate to have to scroll down a page just for a pic.
You also need to blend the different areas together. Each on seems like it is trying to do it's own thing. Each area should look like it fits into the scheme of the page.
To many off setting colors in the template of the page.

sorry about the broken links, forgot to tell you to just use the side menu (all links are on that for now)


also the old menu is crap i know, but i do like the new one :)



and could you specify which site is the one you find faults in thanks: computer_tom

I was talking about the new site for the most part.

I looked at the page source. I would set things up with tables. This would eliminate the menu overlapping the main page an such. Then use a css style sheet to assign the attributes to each sections layout.

The main thing with your site is, it looks like the puzzle pieces are just thrown on the table. They are not put together to fit.

Here is a basic 3 column table layout with some of your code in it. The width, height, alignment and such would go in the css style sheet. If you haven't used them, I would suggest looking into them. They let you do a lot of things with a page with less typing.

I just added borders to the code so you can see the different columns and such.

The table layout will allow your page to scale too.

Where'd my post about that big yellow logo thing looking like ass go?

I'd say it got deleted with a comment like that.

Identical threads merged

I hate to say it, but this site seems to contain as much interesting content as my post. If this is the upgrade, I'm scared. I've seen a couple of myspace profiles that are worse, but I guess whats really embarrasing is that you paid money to publish this on the internet.

Maybe if you shut down the site quick enough, noone will ever know. It'll be as if it never existed. Our little secret.

Uh, why? I was just trying to help the guy out. I'm a little rough around the edges, but he really does need to get rid of that thing, I was trying to make a point. The rest looks more or less fine to me, it's just that big logo thing sticks out and is all blocky and ugly. Besides, it's back now. I donno how it got back... maybe I just didn't see it, I donno.

Marshall

i didn't pay for anything but the domain name (i have me own server)


i will be redoing the layout too, (just for the reason that it cant scale, and this is just what i need (meaning this kind of reed back) anyone know someone thats really good at photoshop that might be willing to help me (not for computer-tom.com but sompthing else) thanks

If you are anything like me, you don't mind the coding of a web site espashaly a simple static one but are not the most artistic! Do what I do. Go to http://www.oswd.org/ or similar choose which standard you whish to comform to, choose a template and use that as your base. Just alter as you whish! Then you get some exposure to the code and a design by people who are good at the artistic side of things!

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ya, i have no qualms about coding for a few hours it just i not an artist by any standard :)

Uhh....I too think you should be more concerned with the content than the style of that site...

Can I inquire why you'd use Windows for a web server?

Also, the slashes in your signature are going the wrong way :cool:

lose the w3c xhtml/css gifs - they don't work anyways (incorrect URL). Visit some other design sites and get a better color scheme.

i am using win because thats all i got

if you can do it well enough without sacrificing that original "tone" ... you site may have a certain kind of style ... but i guess you may need to be able to enjoy the aesthetic of the "tasteless" in the first place ...


//2.cents


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i have a general 'warm-felling' layout now at http://71.232.33.90/beta_new

if some one could tell me how i could clean out all those div's (couldn't find another way because of the css)


i still need a top hdr bad and ftr, and background. hope have it up And running more so in the next few days thanks

One of the things I understood quite fast when creating homepages was: I suck at design. I thought I could get better with some practice, but I gave up. Some peoples are good at some things, but suck at others. Design is not my thing ^_^.

I'm not saying that you suck, I found your page good, but you definitely need to blend the colors better. It is hard on the eyes, especially with the tone of blue and red together. I'd recommend you hunting the web for some free templates. There are even some very cheap templates out there that you can buy, if you really want your page to look "exclusive".

If you are willing to create a page with a more dynamic content, you may even consider great applications such as WordPress to accomplish that task. It comes with good "themes" and you can download and use a whole bunch as well.

For your logo: Since your page is something about computer, try using pictures from computer parts (like a keyboard) and play with it using Gimp (or any other good image editor), try blending your page's name with the chosen part and see how it turns out. Making a nice logo is not difficult with Gimp.

Well, this is just an idea. As I said, I suck pretty bad at web design, but I'm relatively good creating dynamic pages with Java, for example. It is just more "my thing" ^_^.

Now, I don't want to discourage you. I just think you need some guidance. Take at least a look into some free templates. If you don't want to use any, at least they will give you some ideas, especially about colors ^_^.

Other then that, good luck! :)

Even a very basic website theme can look attractive without much work.

All you need to use is simple, light pastel colours and not mix and match too many colour combinations. Keep the colour changes to a minimum - more like different shades of a single colour and that'll make your site look well integrated and designed. I've learned by trial and error that half-toned pastel shades are the best choices for websites.

Also don't use "full-toned" colours. Bright colours make a site hard to read. Also have good contrast between text colour and background colour.

Good luck :D

Actually I believe any body can design good looking websites. Colour matching is the key and if you have a simple layout, any site can look attractive.

>> "i have a general 'warm-felling' layout now at http://71.232.33.90/beta_new ..."

hmm ... not bad at all ...


//keep it up ...


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thanks, i still need the background, i will try a few out that i have, also need some one thats good with photoshop for hdr and ftr :)

@Computer Tom, you should fix your sig, your slashes after the http: is backwards. It should read http://