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Old 06-28-2005, 07:49 PM   #1
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Microsoft up to its old tricks to stop firefox adoption.


I stumbled across this this morning. There has been an update to msn.com, a small javascript applet called msnmoz.js that causes the 'open in new tab' command in firefox to malfunction in various ways depending on the platform. In windows, I cannot reproduce this, but on three different Linux boxes, when you right-click a link from the msn home page and select 'open in new tab', either the home page reloads or it acts as a single click on the main page. There is a workaround, although I doubt most Linux users care about the msn.com site. But just in case this tactic spreads (and it likely will), here is the fix.

Install Adblock (Like you haven't already )
Open the msn.com page
Click adblock in the lower right corner
select and block the link that contains http://hp.msn.com/scr/home/msnmoz1021.js

What a bunch of loooosers, they couldn't come up with a better name for their bug than msnmoz.js?? Oh how the mighty have fallen..

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Old 06-28-2005, 09:28 PM   #2
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The NoScript extension blocks the js and keeps msn.com from being stupid. What next block all microsoft sites from using anything but IE?

Looks like I was incorrect. But the User Agent Switcher does the trick.

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Old 06-28-2005, 11:06 PM   #3
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The NoScript extension blocks the js and keeps msn.com from being stupid. What next block all microsoft sites from using anything but IE?
If you want to manually download and install security updates you have to use IE
 
Old 06-28-2005, 11:11 PM   #4
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of course you do have to use it for that, its the only know web browser that spits out info on what programs yo have, what you have, what updates you need, no wonder every other week its "critical security vulnerability found in IE that allows for remote execution of code"
 
Old 06-28-2005, 11:23 PM   #5
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I can't say what this does in IE, as I haven't used Windows in quite a while, thank God. I download and install my updates with a simply command...

apt-get upgrade
 
Old 06-28-2005, 11:48 PM   #6
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MSN? MSN?! We don't need no stinking MSN!

But seriously, I doubt this will spread. Microsoft clearly has an interest in promoting their own browser, but most other websites won't go out of their way to to restrict their user base. Most Firefox-incompatible website are caused by sloppy webmasters who are to lazy or ignorant to properly test their sites.
 
Old 06-29-2005, 02:14 AM   #7
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I had this happen in linux.....so I mean its not liek MS is forcing you to use IE because you know there is no IE in linux. It could just be an incompatiability between HTML code based around a Windows/IE enviroment and a Linux/Mozilla enviroment. Since MS certainly has no obligation to make stuff Linux compatiable I doubt it will be fixed but I also doubt it was intentional.
 
Old 06-29-2005, 08:12 AM   #8
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http://hp.msn.com/scr/home/msnmoz1021.js

Interesting name of a file, for being non-intentional...
 
Old 06-29-2005, 08:34 AM   #9
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... because it were intentional this would clearly be a case of malicious coding. Where's the "justice" department when you need them.
 
Old 06-29-2005, 09:26 AM   #10
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They can do whatever the hell they want with their webpage. Nobody owns the internet.
 
Old 06-29-2005, 03:32 PM   #11
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They can do whatever the hell they want with their webpage. Nobody owns the internet.
this may be true, but given their market dominance and disproportional influence, you could also argue that they have some duty to consumers in general to maintain fairness of access.

in any event, it's pathetic that they resort to these childish tactics.
 
Old 06-29-2005, 04:34 PM   #12
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This doesn't work for me. I can right click to my heart's content and it works - but I am on Linux Incidentally, there is are 2 extensions for Firefox/Windows: one allows you to open a page from Firefox in IE and the other allows you to connect to Windows Update from Firefox.
 
Old 06-29-2005, 07:57 PM   #13
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I hear you Xavior, a buddy at work couldn't reproduce it on his Windows machine either, and he was using 1.0.4 to boot. Every one of my machines (7 Linux boxes) had this problem when I checked. I do think it is intentional, based on past experience (Netscape **cough, Word Perfect **cough **cough), but I don't hit that page very often so I don't know when the javascript was added, but when I see BS, I like to call BS....
 
Old 06-30-2005, 01:01 AM   #14
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I have just tried it on XP SP2 with Firefox 1.0.4 - and I can still use the "right click to open in a new tab"
 
  


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