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Old 07-24-2020, 12:48 PM   #1
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Microsoft creep


The latest smooth tactic from the evil people at Microsoft in the strategy to control Linux. After persuading Linus Torvalds to betray the world wide community for 30 pieces of silver, and buying GitHub in order to steal all the programs (Microsoft owns the rights), we have the Zerg-like creep because world domination means domination of all.
The next tactic is to find the best and active programmers contributing to Linux on GitHub, and distract them with offers of 'helping' the community. To all you committed Linux programmers, PLEASE stop working for them because Microsoft will own the rights to software and licence it back to us on a subscription. That is their version of open source.
We are not helpless nor are we lemmings, just refuse to work for MIcrosoft as a principle. There are legitimate organisations who could manage areas of Linux who are not going to bend the open source rules.
Look how far Linux has come, look at the commitments from thousands of people world-wide who wanted to fight for Linux over thirty plus years. Please stop the creep of control by the scheming people at Microsoft.
 
Old 07-24-2020, 03:52 PM   #2
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Microsoft does what a multinational megacorp will do, that's nothing new.
People who code for money have to - well, not all of them can be succesful startups, so many of them will work for one of a handful of multinational megacorps, that's nothing new either.

So you should not forget to mention those other evil companies - Google, Amazon, ... they're all evil. Here's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ies_by_revenue - fight them all! If you don't depend on their money, that is.
 
Old 07-27-2020, 10:23 AM   #3
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The rise of Linux is inevitable now and there is nothing that Microsoft can do about it. Their only users are gamers. All the technical users like devs, artists, etc are on/slowly migrating to Linux. And everyday users, for whom computers=browsers, have all gone to Android. And the know it. That's why they have made Windows 10 free for personal use and only charge business. So, I'm sure Windows will go down in a decade or two at max. But Microsoft, as a company is here to stay. They are more diversified than any other tech giants of today.
 
Old 07-27-2020, 10:32 AM   #4
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.......That's why they have made Windows 10 free for personal use......
No, it is not.
 
Old 07-27-2020, 10:36 AM   #5
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Windows 10 is not free for personal use at all. Not sure where you got that info. Yes, you can download the install media but it will require you to register it which requires a purchase.

You are making assumptions about where people are migrating and in this landscape you can't make unequivicol statements like this because there is no way to determine this.
 
Old 07-27-2020, 11:35 AM   #6
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The latest smooth tactic from the evil people at Microsoft [etc]
Unfortunately, it's not limited to Microsoft. Linux is now big corporate business and is bankrolled/controlled/influenced by the likes of google, IBM/Red Hat, HP, Intel, Oracle, etc, etc and the list goes on. If you use Linux you're using what is primarily a corporate product. The days of volunteers, with a free software ethos, is almost over and by far the largest contributors are now fortune 500 companies.

Desktop hobbyists are insignificant compared to enterprise/cloud and embedded. If you don't pay or contribute, then you don't matter.
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... there is nothing that Microsoft can do about it. Their only users are gamers.
Not quite. The vast majority of businesses worldwide use Windows x86 desktop/laptop PCs as workstations. It still dominates that platform and indeed that platform has evolved around it - and due to MS' deal with the OEMs, is tightly coupled to it. By comparison Linux is something like less than 1% of that market and the BSDs are not even on the scale.

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Old 07-27-2020, 03:17 PM   #7
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There have been several "positive" articles appearing in the popular press concerning how Microsoft is "incorporating" Linux. What these articles fail to disclose is that Linux would be "trapped" in a Microsoft "jail". Or to put it another way, the user would still be forced to buy Windows before they could use Linux. To avoid that headache, just install a Linux distro without Windows.

Recently, I saw an article where Microsoft is intending to upscale it's partitioning app. As one of my computers is dual boot, I have noticed that the Linux partitions are not recognized. I'm willing to bet that Microsoft's upscaled partitioning app, will still not recognize the Linux partitions.

Which also leads me to comment on their boot-loader. Microsoft is claiming how it is supposedly adopting "open source". Again, I'm willing to bet that that is nothing but hot air. If Microsoft was truly becoming friendly with Linux they would have a boot-loader that would give you the option to boot into a Linux distro.

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Old 07-27-2020, 03:22 PM   #8
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Yeah, they are definitely not going to make it easy for people to use a separate Linux distro. Their "incorporation" of Linux inside Windows 10 is funky and I never use it actually. This was done by them to get Linux admins that use Linux to administer other boxes, to use Windows instead because they wouldn't have to install a separate Linux distro - can theoretically do it all from Windows. Which equals another copy of Windows sold for Microsoft, which is really all. they care about.
 
Old 07-27-2020, 06:49 PM   #9
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Open source has nothing to do with free software foundation as far as I know. At least that is was https://stallman.org/ said

Trippy. If you are interested in creeps.

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/microsoft...e-who-will-win

Wife runs windows. I don't. Anymore. I quit tuning the new motorcycles.

Edit: but to just screw with this thread

Code:
harry@biker:~
$ apt-cache policy teams
teams:
  Installed: 1.3.00.16851
  Candidate: 1.3.00.16851
  Version table:
 *** 1.3.00.16851 500
        500 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1.3.00.5153 500
        500 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable/main amd64 Packages
     1.3.00.958 500
        500 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable/main amd64 Packages
     1.2.00.32451 500
        500 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable/main amd64 Packages
harry@biker:~

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