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Old 02-01-2019, 04:35 AM   #106
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I had my first counselling session yesterday. The counsellor was a huge DC Comics fan and his living room was festooned with merchandise of Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman. He was a big Batman fan and we spent a little time talking about our appreciation for Batman Returns.

Aside from that, it was a two hour counselling session. At the end of it the counsellor said that the situation I have been in - without going into more detail - has been "very abusive and very oppressive". And before anyone says that he was telling me something I wanted to hear because he was being paid - this was free - no payment was asked for or given. I am now in the process of trying to repair things and going on a road to improving my life and my psychological wellbeing.

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Old 02-01-2019, 05:21 AM   #107
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It sounds like there is a reason you saw this thread and decided to post to it, and now you are finding out what that reason was, and why you saw this thread.

All the best Lysander666, you're a smart guy, you'll be alright.
 
Old 02-01-2019, 11:07 AM   #108
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When I "left the nest" one thing my Mother wrote to me in the first month I will never forget. On one hand it's a stupid cliche but oddly when things got tough, it did help. She said "The same heat that melts butter tempers steel. Be steel, my Son, be steel" Lysander666 I wish for you to be butter when you must "just get along", and steel when you need to stand firm. Learning the whats, whens and whys will make you a powerful man. Hang tuff, Bro!
 
Old 02-01-2019, 11:27 PM   #109
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And before anyone says that he was telling me something I wanted to hear because he was being paid - this was free - no payment was asked for or given.
I think only the most negative people might say something like that.

It sounds like you have a good rapport with this fellow. Very good when that happens.

I've mostly been a Marvel Comics fan when I was younger. I liked the first Marvel movies, but the more recent ones I didn't care much for. As for DC, I thought Wonder Woman was very well done. I also so most of the Batman movies.

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I saw something today about some protein with a four letter acronym that holds promise more than mere serotonin control and is possibly the tip of the iceberg for far more effctive medical help for depression. Man! things are changing fast!
That's cool if it can help with depression. Though a lot of what people were told about serotonin has proved to mostly misleading. See "Low Serotonin Level Don't Cause Depression".

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Old 02-04-2019, 12:32 AM   #110
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I have a collection of vintage Marvel comics and had 13 of my favorites tacked to part of a wall in plastic sheet folders and used a tape measure to get it right. I had some vintage Hot Wheels in packages on another and it was all tastefully arranged.

My nephew, a Lutheran Minister, came over once to see me (in the 11 years I've lived here) so I showed it to him.

Evidently, he thought that was childish but didn't say so in my presence. I didn't think preachers lied either but he does.

I fired him from speaking at my funeral and taking the rest of my family into consideration canceled my funeral services and went with immediate burial. If they can't come see me while I'm alive I don't want them standing around looking at me when I'm dead no matter who they are.



I'm glad you found somebody you trust and can relate to, Lysander666.
 
Old 02-09-2019, 02:24 AM   #111
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I have a collection of vintage Marvel comics and had 13 of my favorites tacked to part of a wall in plastic sheet folders and used a tape measure to get it right. I had some vintage Hot Wheels in packages on another and it was all tastefully arranged.

My nephew, a Lutheran Minister, came over once to see me (in the 11 years I've lived here) so I showed it to him.

Evidently, he thought that was childish but didn't say so in my presence. I didn't think preachers lied either but he does.
It's "funny" how we can live in a society that has so many problems, so much crime, but a person with a harmless hobby can be judged negatively.

Vintage? I was collecting in the mid - late 80's, and then again about 10 years ago for a short time. I lost most of my originals but replaced many of them later (at the reasonable rate of 50cents each). So I guess for me, the most interesting time for Marvel Comics was the Bronze Age. I managed to get a hold of a lot of reprints of the X-men ca 1975 (when the new team formed.. Chris Clarement as author).
 
Old 02-11-2019, 09:14 AM   #112
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Something from one of today's fortunes:

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If you are not for yourself, who will be for you?
If you are for yourself, then what are you?
If not now, when?
 
Old 02-11-2019, 01:37 PM   #113
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IVintage? I was collecting in the mid - late 80's, and then again about 10 years ago for a short time. I lost most of my originals but replaced many of them later (at the reasonable rate of 50cents each). So I guess for me, the most interesting time for Marvel Comics was the Bronze Age. I managed to get a hold of a lot of reprints of the X-men ca 1975 (when the new team formed.. Chris Clarement as author).
I have a clothes basket full of Silver Age comics I bought new in the 60's-70's that had sat in the attic of our old house till it sold 11-12 years ago. Mostly Marvel and some DC but also several Gold Key/Dell brand comics with titles like The Twilight Zone and Boris Karloff Tales of Mystery, The Outer Limits and Flying Saucers.

My favorites are a series of 13 Dr. Strange Master of the Mystic Arts from #169, the Origin story and only one where he smokes a cigarette, to #181. I'm short one or two to finish out that series and they go for around $15 on ebay.

I have the DC comic of the first race between Superman and The Flash, Hawkman, Not Brand ECCH! Thor, Spiderman, Fantastic Four, Strange Tales and several variations of Monsters Among Us type Marvel comics among others.

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Old 03-09-2019, 09:57 AM   #114
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Btw, in 2017 I started a mental health related project on GitHub.
 
Old 05-17-2019, 04:07 AM   #115
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It's Mental Health Awareness Week here in the UK. At work yesterday we had the dietitian team come over and give us lot of health food and talk about living a healthier lifestyle.

https://www.mind.org.uk/get-involved...iAAEgKt_vD_BwE

The tabloids are more concerned with reporting male suicides this week, which is actually a good thing, it needs more exposure.

Hope everyone is looking after themselves properly.
 
Old 05-19-2019, 12:57 PM   #116
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The main problem I have with the state of how we look at mental illness as a country and as a people, it's that when a well known celebrity commits suicide we're all in tears, shocked up and begging people to open up and talk if they're considering suicide.

Then once Joe Q. Public actually does open up and evince suicidal thoughts or depression it becomes "enjoy your all expenses paid vacation to suicide jail, buppykins! I hear the shock therapy is invigorating this time of year!"
 
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The main problem I have with the state of how we look at mental illness as a country and as a people, it's that when a well known celebrity commits suicide we're all in tears, shocked up and begging people to open up and talk if they're considering suicide.

Then once Joe Q. Public actually does open up and evince suicidal thoughts or depression it becomes "enjoy your all expenses paid vacation to suicide jail, buppykins! I hear the shock therapy is invigorating this time of year!"
Yeah, I've been in 2 acute units for 72 hour holds. One was voluntary but they wouldn't let me leave when I asked. That's not so terrible, but the experiences from those places that really stick out to me: one of the staff members joked openly, in front of me, with another staff member about my method of attempted suicide. Another time, a staff member was threatening to put a fellow patient into isolation because he was getting upset. I sat down next to the guy and just started talking to him and he calmed down (I knew him for about a day and hadn't seen signs that he couldn't be calmed down with just a few words). Anyway.. about a minute later, the staff guy walked away without saying anything. I did it in such as a way not to interfere with the staff fellow or undermine him... I just sat down next to the patient and pretended I didn't notice the staff guy basically.

Basically I wouldn't ever want to be put in a situation where I would be locked up for mental health issues again. They don't really do anything there anyway... a person's temporarily out of the situation that got them there, then back out again with some meds, and no real, meaningful emotional support, in some cases. Pretty much a joke.
 
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Basically I wouldn't ever want to be put in a situation where I would be locked up for mental health issues again. They don't really do anything there anyway... a person's temporarily out of the situation that got them there, then back out again with some meds, and no real, meaningful emotional support, in some cases. Pretty much a joke.
Same here. Reminds me of my experience many years ago now before I was even 18 (can't really remember exactly how old I was at the time), the ass*ole (the so-called "doctor") even threatened me if I didn't pick up my "meds" from the hosiptal's pharmacy department, "oh, I'll know if you don't pick your whateveritwas pills". He didn't give a rats ass, and thought because I didn't talk to him about my problems that I was basically just a "trouble-maker" or similar - he just believed everything others told him about me. I remember seeing him on TV talking about mental health problems with young people, and it's like "well you didn't give a rats ass about me when I was young, you did enjoy threatening me tho - you ass*ole".

The reality is that, unless you're rich, it's just about freeing up the bed as soon as you're not an acute case anymore. Where I live, if you're a public patent full stop, even in the so-called "health system" generally, you're lucky if you just get half-decent care. It seems the "modern" approach is to dope you up on pills, rather than providing proper emotional support. I remember living in a boarding house some years ago now, there was a guy who quite literally tore his own hair out, he was doped up to the eyeballs on pills (proscribed "meds"), and even said he was going to overdose, he did too. I can still remember the cops wheeling his body out of the place. It was the other tenants there that called the ambulance - who wouldn't go there without police escort, because of the place's reputation (the address was flagged for "DO NOT ATTEND WITHOUT POLICE ESCORT").

Bottom line is: I don't personally rely on "doctors", particularly "shrinks" anymore, as ones that do it because they genuinely care and want to help are hard to find these days - particularly if you haven't got the money to pay...

You're better off just doing it yourself, and helping yourself however you can, honestly. Hope you're ok now though Andy.
 
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Wow, thanks you guys for posting this. While I'm not diagnosed I appreciate the candour from people I identify with.
 
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The other part of it is that, anyone can read a book, and/or get a piece of paper saying they "know". But unless they've been through something similar themselves, they don't really understand. This is true for pretty much anything, particularly mental health issues. Not to try and go off-topic, but the same is true even just trying to learn C. Yeah, I can read about it all I want, but a lot of what I currently know so far (still no-where near any master yet, mind you), only really clicked by actually doing it - not just reading about it.

To drift back to topic, human emotions aren't the same for everyone, different people experience different things and emotions. The saying, and not to try and be rude to anyone, "it takes one, to know one" says it best here. I can only say I know, because I've been there myself, otherwise I wouldn't honestly have even just one f'ing clue about it. So I think some people seem to be under the false impression that, they can just go to University, get a degree, and somehow be able to read someone's mind, and just "know". I had a similar thing with one little bastard some months ago now; "oh, I know what you've been through" or words to that effect, and it's like "you wouldn't have even just half an f'ing clue what I've been through, you'd be dead if you'd been through even just the half of it - you little bastard". If I was a violent person, I could just see myself smashing his computer screen straight over his ignorant little head. It's like "how on earth do you 'know' if you've never been through the same or similar yourself??!! Don't bull*hit me pal!". It's insulting.
 
  


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