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View Poll Results: If you've been treated for Mental Illness, rate the effectiveness
1 2 10.53%
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3 1 5.26%
4 0 0%
5 1 5.26%
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7 1 5.26%
8 2 10.53%
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10 3 15.79%
It's too soon to tell 1 5.26%
Can't really tell if it's made things better or worse 5 26.32%
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Old 05-27-2019, 02:38 AM   #136
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Just rewatching this Ted Talk which reminded me of this thread:
https://youtu.be/xYemnKEKx0c
ah thanks, even the first few minutes seem to sum it up nicely (at least what i wrote here recently).
listening now.

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Old 10-09-2019, 09:03 AM   #137
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I had a phone-based assessment with the NHS yesterday who said, under the criteria that they specified, that I have symptoms of moderate-severe depression and moderate anxiety. The latter doesn't really surprise me at all, but the former does a little. However, I have been showing symptoms of this since the late 2000s so I suppose I should just accept it. After I kick-started the screening process a few weeks ago the NHS has basically leapt on the issue, and I've been contacted my its mental health arm a number of times and I have a mental health review with my GP now [which I didn't book]. I would not be so quick to say that I have any disorder as such, it's way too early to diagnose that, but I suppose this is something I should just accept? What makes it harder is the fact that I am, in person, a very upbeat individual and this makes some people [including one of the doctors at my GP practice] think I am overreacting or exaggerating when I talk about these symptoms. I am very good indeed at hiding it. So parts of this have surprised me and parts haven't [mostly they haven't, I suppose it's the 'severe' word I don't like]. Part of me just wants to sweep the whole thing under the carpet, but that hasn't really done much good up till now.
 
Old 10-09-2019, 12:45 PM   #138
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Hello Lysander666. I'd like to ask if they specified that they were referring to Conditional (normal and correct) Depression or a Chemical/Wiring condition that never disappears even when things are going great? Also, and in my view somewhat more importantly, how do you gauge yourself? Are you ever happy and triumphant or more like... say, Eeyore, who always takes the negative view of things?

Note: Please don't be offended by my reference to a fictional and rather over-the-top character. I mean no disrespect and have no intent to minimize the importance and difficulty of such a condition. It's just that Eeyore is so obvious and universally known nobody will misunderstand what I mean. I know it is far more complicated in reality.
 
Old 10-09-2019, 01:59 PM   #139
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enorbet, thanks for your comment. I think we're too early along to answer your first question, unfortunately. I have more phone calls to take and clinicians to see. I'd love to know. I am not that interested in what causes it, certainly not at the moment but I suppose without addressing that it's not going to go away. My family does have a history of mental illness. I don't know much about it though. So whether it is situational or biological is yet to be seen.

As for the second question, I don't take offence at all, it generally takes a lot to offend me. If the question were rephrased inasmuch as - am I an optimist, pessimist or cynic, I would say again, I find this hard to answer. I generally see the good in everyone but I am also aware of the selfishness and exploitative nature of human beings. I don't think life is great, I think it is hard by default but I am lucky to have led quite a privileged life up until this point. I think it is a grey area, 50/50. I try to judge things on their own merit and how I instinctively feel.
 
Old 10-09-2019, 03:13 PM   #140
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I typically advise caution about what to accept, and when to accept it. For example, if you were to tell someone who doesn't have a history of mental illness that he or she has a mental illness, and they accepted that as fact, that person would most likely over time develop problems. That's just a hypothetical example of course, less likely to happen to an adult; but especially harmful if told to a child.

What they diagnose you with may be less important than how you're treated. Both pills and talk therapy can either have a beneficial long-term effect, or a harmful long-term effect. The last therapist I saw, in our first session, advised me that psychotherapy can make symptoms worse in the short-term. That was last year, so, wasn't my first therapist (started in 1992). I think the first one that told me that though.

As for the damage that pills may do... most of the scientific evidence from that comes from the clinical trials up to the point where the drug is approved. Because some side effects of psych meds, if experienced, mimic or worsen the symptoms of mental illness, it makes it extremely difficult for a doctor to differentiate between cause and effect.

One way a person could kind of "double-check" a diagnosis is to get a copy of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM–5). It's what psychiatrists are supposed to use to diagnose mental health problems. You may be able to match up your symptoms to what the DSM states. It would contain stuff like, "How frequent the mood" and "severity level". Basically like an algorithm.

Though, tbh, I don't have complete faith in the DSM, but it may be at least one option to get some knowledge that could help you consider the accuracy of your diagnosis.

This is probably worth a quick read, too https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/...21689&LangID=E
 
Old 12-28-2019, 05:56 AM   #141
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I just created a related mental health check-in thread.

In the US, the number 988 is going to be set up as a hotline for mental health emergencies.

There is an "Open Source" mental health forum at https://forums.osmihelp.org/ (I don't remember if it was mentioned here yet).
 
Old 01-04-2020, 11:37 PM   #142
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Online support group: Peerly Human. A blog with links to educational resources and information about joining the online group.
 
Old 01-06-2020, 11:49 AM   #143
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This looks excellent, Andy. Does anyone know what happened to Monica Cassani from beyondmeds dot com?

https://web.archive.org/web/20191013...eyondmeds.com/

There was so much excellent information there, even for those of you who decide to take meds, that I hate to see the site gone.

I am also concerned about my fellow human beings. Monica shared a lot of herself in that site that could have been useful for Lysander666 or anyone else seeking help for mental health issues.
 
Old 01-06-2020, 03:11 PM   #144
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This looks excellent, Andy. Does anyone know what happened to Monica Cassani from beyondmeds dot com?

https://web.archive.org/web/20191013...eyondmeds.com/

There was so much excellent information there, even for those of you who decide to take meds, that I hate to see the site gone.

I am also concerned about my fellow human beings. Monica shared a lot of herself in that site that could have been useful for Lysander666 or anyone else seeking help for mental health issues.
Wow, it's nice to see someone else here who's familiar with her site and work

A very prolific mental health site and community running for over a decade. Hopefully we'll see it again. I noticed her domain was down last week, shot her an email. Suffice it to say, Monica is still with us, just catching up on some rest.

More links related to Mental Health and Suicide Prevention, and Beyond Meds:

selfcare.tech

Benzodiazepine Information Coalition

Medicating Normal (the film)

Surviving Antidepressants

Alliance for Human Research Protection

if me

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Old 01-07-2020, 02:09 PM   #145
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Thank you so much. Here is my own list of interesting and/or potentially helpful links:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/menta...b0ab5c3d6344ab
https://www.healthyfoodhouse.com/che...ng-in-silence/
https://www.refugeingrief.com/2018/04/10/grief-crazy/ <-------Megan Devine does some sort of group grief counselling through Facebook; info is in the link.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...-breaking-away <-----Imi Lo does online counselling sessions on a pay-as-you go basis and is physically located in the UK. They are relatively affordable if anyone who is reading this is currently in crisis.

Be sure to let Monica know that some random stranger on the internet was asking about her on a Linux forum. I think she'd like that.

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Old 01-13-2020, 12:20 AM   #146
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Good links! Thank you.

I gave Monica your message and forward her replies to your email through the LQ message system.

Another interesting and important piece: Heroic Female Vet Saves Lives with Story of Polypharmacy and Overmedication
 
Old 01-16-2020, 10:29 PM   #147
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Something for veterans: Warfighter Advance
 
Old 02-14-2020, 07:39 AM   #148
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No matter how people talk about the need for therapy, this does not always work. My classmate’s father committed suicide and this was a shock for everyone. He did not show his condition, he simply said that he was tired of work. Men often leave like this..
 
  


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